DP initial review of K-3 III
Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:
Well, it is April 1st ...
Sure?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1568475-REG/pentax_31080_hot_shoe_cover.html
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I hate to say this but the optional hot shoe cover has been on B&H's web
site for several years now. It is outrageously expensive for a piece of
extruded plastic, but it's not new with the K-3III.
On 4/1/2021 1:01 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:
Well, it is April 1st ...
Sure?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1568475-REG/pentax_31080_hot_shoe_cover.html
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Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax.
Exactly my thoughts Bill, well said!
On 1 Apr 2021, at 16:37, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/1/2021 8:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 16:02 schrieb pentax@dfsee.com:
The actual battery charge-circuitry is now built-in to the camera itself, which is an advantage in some situations, but less so in others
I think this deserves the grand prize for the most idiotic idea of all
times. So, once the battery is empty, I put the camera aside for the
time it takes to recharge and then I can use it again?
For many years, the solution of recharging spare batteries outside of
the camera seemed to me to be the only sensible way. Even my car has a
230 volt socket, so I can use the supplied Pentax battery charger on the
road.
Or what am I getting wrong here?
What you are getting wrong is that you can buy an accessory battery charger, either from Pentax or a variety of aftermarket companies.
Think of it as part of the price of admission.
In Canada, I can get a third party charger for about 40 dollars. I expect the K3III will cost close to Can$2500.00 when released.
I'm not in the market for this particular camera, but if I was, I wouldn't be bitching very hard about an extra less than 2% for an accessory charger.
Oh, unless you haven't upgraded since the K20, it's the same battery as has been in use since 2009, and the same charger.
You might just have a battery charger sitting around your house if you think about it.
bill
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On 3/31/2021 12:52 PM, Bill wrote:
The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built
around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer
already has an external battery charger.
A reviewer on Peta Pixel was very impressed with the viewfinder and
commented that developing it must of been a considerable effort. I have
no idea what it takes to build a better finder, but it may be that
Pentax is really serious about people wanting to use optical finders vs
EVF's and decided to build the camera around this feature. Hopefully
there is really a market segment motivated by super nice view finders.
The camera does look impressive.
Mark
Am 01.04.21 um 18:44 schrieb John Francis:
With a predicted battery life of 800 shots (and a battery grip for 800 more)
I don't envision running out of battery power on a day's shooting.
As long as you're shooting in the comfort of your well-heated living
room that may be true.
Let me tell you that in gale-force winds and at sub-zero temperatures
with a good dose of long exposures (30 sec +), autofocus action and
LiveView (some of my typical shooting situations) your 800 shots are
more like 100.
Ralf
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I want to take a look at it when I have a chance. It might be just me, but
after a certain age, optical viewfinders stopped working as well as they
used to. I can now see things in an EVF better than even in a really good
OVF like that of my MX. After I realized this, it was a matter of trying
the amazing OVF of the X-T[1,2,3] to not want to look back.
I do miss the K3 sometimes, that was peak DSLR for me, and I did own a KP
for a few years after that.
j
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM Mark C pdml-mark@charter.net wrote:
On 3/31/2021 12:52 PM, Bill wrote:
The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built
around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer
already has an external battery charger.
A reviewer on Peta Pixel was very impressed with the viewfinder and
commented that developing it must of been a considerable effort. I have
no idea what it takes to build a better finder, but it may be that
Pentax is really serious about people wanting to use optical finders vs
EVF's and decided to build the camera around this feature. Hopefully
there is really a market segment motivated by super nice view finders.
The camera does look impressive.
Mark
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Am 02.04.21 um 22:56 schrieb Juan Buhler:
I want to take a look at it when I have a chance. It might be just me, but
after a certain age, optical viewfinders stopped working as well as they
used to.
My troubles began when I got my first no-line glasses, 15 years ago. I
suddenly needed a correction of +1 for my viewfinders. Given that all my
older cameras didn't have adjustable viewfinders, I had to fit correcion
lenses with all their known disadvantages.
Now, with adjustable viewfinders in modern cameras, it's no longer a
problem but manual focussing has become ever more difficult with my
ageing eyes, so I've mostly stopped using MF lenses which is a little
sad because I really liked some of them.
No-one has ever been able to explain this odd phenomenon with the +1
correction, not even the experts at Essilor, Zeiss and Rodenstock.
Ralf
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On Fri., Apr. 2, 2021, 2:25 p.m. Mark C, pdml-mark@charter.net wrote:
On 3/31/2021 12:52 PM, Bill wrote:
The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built
around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer
already has an external battery charger.
A reviewer on Peta Pixel was very impressed with the viewfinder and
commented that developing it must of been a considerable effort. I have
no idea what it takes to build a better finder, but it may be that
Pentax is really serious about people wanting to use optical finders vs
EVF's and decided to build the camera around this feature. Hopefully
there is really a market segment motivated by super nice view finders.
The camera does look impressive.
Mark
I wonder if some of what they are doing is prepping for when they are the
only game in town if one wants an SLR?
I can see Canon and Sony going 100% mirrorless within a few years.
I think it's been 6 years since Sony last introduced an SLR, they did a
pellicle mirror camera in 2016. I believe everything from them since has
been mirtorless.
History tells me that Canon will drop the EF mount sooner rather than
later. I expect that in 5 years Canon won't be making SLR cameras or lenses.
Nikon will probably keep an SLR in their line up, but I don't anticipate a
lot of new SLR models from them in the future.
There are enough people for whom the EVF is literally a headache that the
SLR market will have customers.
bill
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:32:36PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 18:44 schrieb John Francis:
With a predicted battery life of 800 shots (and a battery grip for 800 more)
I don't envision running out of battery power on a day's shooting.
As long as you're shooting in the comfort of your well-heated living
room that may be true.
Let me tell you that in gale-force winds and at sub-zero temperatures
with a good dose of long exposures (30 sec +), autofocus action and
LiveView (some of my typical shooting situations) your 800 shots are
more like 100.
Ralf
If it's in gale-force winds at sub-zero temperatures, I'm not going to
be out there long enough to get even 100 30-second exposures, even with
a second battery being kept warm in my pocket to slip into the battery
grip when the first one gives out. Nor, I hazard to guess, are 99+% of
the potential purchasers of the K3iii. And I don't have to be in my
living room to get more than 100 shots out of a battery - almost all
the shots I've taken in the nearly 50 years since I bought my first
Pentax have been taken in conditions far more conducive to good battery
life than those you mention. Off-hand I can only think of three or four
situations when I was shooting at below zero (Fahrenheit).
I any case, if I do buy myself a K3iii (plus the grip & extra battery)
I'll have four batteries I can use; I believe the D90 batteries that I
bought with my K5 over 10 years ago will work in the K3iii, and the old
battery charger for those batteries will charge the new batteries as well.
So, as I said, I wouldn't envision running out of batteries in a day of
shooting with a K3iii. Heck, I'm not even sure Larry could manage that!
On Fri., Apr. 2, 2021, 7:09 p.m. John Francis, johnf@panix.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:32:36PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 18:44 schrieb John Francis:
With a predicted battery life of 800 shots (and a battery grip for 800
more)
I don't envision running out of battery power on a day's shooting.
As long as you're shooting in the comfort of your well-heated living
room that may be true.
Let me tell you that in gale-force winds and at sub-zero temperatures
with a good dose of long exposures (30 sec +), autofocus action and
LiveView (some of my typical shooting situations) your 800 shots are
more like 100.
Ralf
If it's in gale-force winds at sub-zero temperatures, I'm not going to
be out there long enough to get even 100 30-second exposures, even with
a second battery being kept warm in my pocket to slip into the battery
grip when the first one gives out. Nor, I hazard to guess, are 99+% of
the potential purchasers of the K3iii. And I don't have to be in my
living room to get more than 100 shots out of a battery - almost all
the shots I've taken in the nearly 50 years since I bought my first
Pentax have been taken in conditions far more conducive to good battery
life than those you mention. Off-hand I can only think of three or four
situations when I was shooting at below zero (Fahrenheit).
I any case, if I do buy myself a K3iii (plus the grip & extra battery)
I'll have four batteries I can use; I believe the D90 batteries that I
bought with my K5 over 10 years ago will work in the K3iii, and the old
battery charger for those batteries will charge the new batteries as well.
So, as I said, I wouldn't envision running out of batteries in a day of
shooting with a K3iii. Heck, I'm not even sure Larry could manage that!
I suspect the idea is that the camera gets plugged in at night and is
supposedly fresh for another day. If you need more than that, buy a battery
and charger.
bill