DP initial review of K-3 III
On 4/1/2021 8:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 16:02 schrieb pentax@dfsee.com:
The actual battery charge-circuitry is now built-in to the camera
itself, which is an advantage in some situations, but less so in others
I think this deserves the grand prize for the most idiotic idea of all
times. So, once the battery is empty, I put the camera aside for the
time it takes to recharge and then I can use it again?
For many years, the solution of recharging spare batteries outside of
the camera seemed to me to be the only sensible way. Even my car has a
230 volt socket, so I can use the supplied Pentax battery charger on the
road.
Or what am I getting wrong here?
What you are getting wrong is that you can buy an accessory battery
charger, either from Pentax or a variety of aftermarket companies.
Think of it as part of the price of admission.
In Canada, I can get a third party charger for about 40 dollars. I
expect the K3III will cost close to Can$2500.00 when released.
I'm not in the market for this particular camera, but if I was, I
wouldn't be bitching very hard about an extra less than 2% for an
accessory charger.
Oh, unless you haven't upgraded since the K20, it's the same battery as
has been in use since 2009, and the same charger.
You might just have a battery charger sitting around your house if you
think about it.
bill
On 1 Apr 2021, at 15:37, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/1/2021 8:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 16:02 schrieb pentax@dfsee.com:
The actual battery charge-circuitry is now built-in to the camera itself, which is an advantage in some situations, but less so in others
I think this deserves the grand prize for the most idiotic idea of all
times.
Worse than marching on Moscow?
Am 01.04.21 um 16:37 schrieb Bill:
You might just have a battery charger sitting around your house if you
think about it.
They've all been sold with the cameras they came with.
K-3: 1300 euros with charger, K-3-III: 2000 without. Strange logic...
Ralf
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On 4/1/2021 8:50 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 16:37 schrieb Bill:
You might just have a battery charger sitting around your house if you
think about it.
They've all been sold with the cameras they came with.
K-3: 1300 euros with charger, K-3-III: 2000 without. Strange logic...
Ralf
Ralf, get over yourself. The K3 is an 8 year old camera, the K3II is 6
years old.
If an accessory charger is going to break your bank account, you need to
be seriously thinking about whether you can afford the hobby.
You know better than what you are spewing here.
bill
Am 01.04.21 um 16:55 schrieb Bill:
You know better than what you are spewing here.
I rest my case. So, have you already pre-ordered the hot shoe cover for
50 euros?
Ralf
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 07:15:20PM +0200, Toine wrote:
Everytime [Pentax] claim improved AF, in practice it feels identical
(mediocre).
I have to disagree with this. While Pentax is not up to the standards
I've encountered with Nikon and Canon bodies, I was able to detect a
very noticeable improvement between my K5 and the K3ii I borrowed from
Larry for a trip to Circuit of the Americas. This is not a subjective
measurement - using the same lenses from the same seat in the grandstand
I got a higher percentage of in-focus shots with the K3 than with the k5.
I think the K3iii is probably going to be enough of an improvement over
the K5 for it to be something I will consider buying, should I decide to
remain with Pentax. But that's still the big question - the older I get,
the more attractive a smaller, lighter, system becomes.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 08:13:11PM +0200, Alan C wrote:
At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?
I suspect that's at least partially due to their experience in Europe.
Back in the early days of cellphones, every cellphone sold included a
charger in the box, complete with a proprietary connection. This led
to large numbers of (perfectly usable) chargers ending up in the trash
(or, of you were lucky, in the electronics recycling bin).
Eventually this led to laws requiring a standard way of charging, &c.
While I've still got a variety of chargers lying around (at least 3
different types of USB connectors, and different "fast charge" modes)
I've got less different chargers I use now, serving far more devices.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 10:36:28PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 31.03.21 um 20:13 schrieb Alan C:
At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?
The real hoot is the optional hot shoe cover for 50 euros.
https://ac-foto.com/product/o-hc177-hot-shoe-cover
Ralf
Well, it is April 1st ...
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 04:27:27PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Am 01.04.21 um 16:02 schrieb pentax@dfsee.com:
The actual battery charge-circuitry is now built-in to the camera itself, which is an advantage in some situations, but less so in others
I think this deserves the grand prize for the most idiotic idea of all
times. So, once the battery is empty, I put the camera aside for the
time it takes to recharge and then I can use it again?
For many years, the solution of recharging spare batteries outside of
the camera seemed to me to be the only sensible way. Even my car has a
230 volt socket, so I can use the supplied Pentax battery charger on the
road.
Or what am I getting wrong here?
Ralf
With a predicted battery life of 800 shots (and a battery grip for 800 more)
I don't envision running out of battery power on a day's shooting.
On Apr 1, 2021, at 9:36 AM, John Francis johnf@panix.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 08:13:11PM +0200, Alan C wrote:
At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?
I suspect that's at least partially due to their experience in Europe.
Back in the early days of cellphones, every cellphone sold included a
charger in the box, complete with a proprietary connection. This led
to large numbers of (perfectly usable) chargers ending up in the trash
(or, of you were lucky, in the electronics recycling bin).
Eventually this led to laws requiring a standard way of charging, &c.
While I've still got a variety of chargers lying around (at least 3
different types of USB connectors, and different "fast charge" modes)
I’ve got less different chargers I use now, serving far more devices.
This is not a mode that works so well for people who regularly go out and shoot 2,000 frames at a time, but I suspect most people will take far fewer photographs, only need one battery, and this way they don’t need to worry about losing/finding their charger, and all they need is the cable they already use to upload the photos to their computer. A cable like ones that they already have several of lying around.
I’m not thrilled by this, but I understand how it would be more convenient for most people.
This is probably much the same way as there is likely one person on this list that shoots straight to JPEG, and the in camera JPEG processing is a total waste of development effort for most of us, but it is probably vital to most people who buy a Pentax.