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Henk Terhell
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 7:33 AM
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review Recommended price is $ 2000. Henk
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Toine
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 7:43 AM

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell hterhell@chello.nl wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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2000 That hurts! The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging from USB C only. Not to mention the fixed LCD screen. On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell <hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: > > https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review > Recommended price is $ 2000. > > Henk > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Henk Terhell
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 9:29 AM

Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express.
I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen.
For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user.
As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my
crystal ball.
I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier
carrying than my K-1.
 Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future
Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax
box or 4) forget about APS-C.

Henk

Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhellhterhell@chello.nl  wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

Henk

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Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express. I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen. For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user. As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my crystal ball. I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier carrying than my K-1.  Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax box or 4) forget about APS-C. Henk Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine: > 2000 That hurts! > The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging > from USB C only. > Not to mention the fixed LCD screen. > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell<hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: >> https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review >> Recommended price is $ 2000. >> >> Henk >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email topdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Toine
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 3:08 PM

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 11:29 Henk Terhell, hterhell@chello.nl wrote:

Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express.
I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen.
For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user.
As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my
crystal ball.
I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier
carrying than my K-1.
Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future
Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax
box or 4) forget about APS-C.

Henk

Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhellhterhell@chello.nl  wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

Henk

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I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a backup KP body to survive a few years. On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 11:29 Henk Terhell, <hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: > Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express. > I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen. > For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user. > As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my > crystal ball. > I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier > carrying than my K-1. > Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future > Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax > box or 4) forget about APS-C. > > Henk > > Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine: > > 2000 That hurts! > > The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging > > from USB C only. > > Not to mention the fixed LCD screen. > > > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell<hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: > >> https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review > >> Recommended price is $ 2000. > >> > >> Henk > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-leave@pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email topdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Ralf R Radermacher
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 3:52 PM

Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses.

My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite
happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't
think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when
that should ever become necessary.

I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II.

Ralf

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Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine: > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a > backup KP body to survive a few years. Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses. My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when that should ever become necessary. I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Rick Womer
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 4:36 PM

My longstanding practice has been to wait at least a year before buying a
new camera model. The bugs get ironed out, features get tweaked, and prices
usually drop. I really like my K-5, so am in no hurry.

Rick

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:52 Ralf R Radermacher fotoralf@gmx.de wrote:

Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses.

My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite
happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't
think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when
that should ever become necessary.

I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II.

Ralf

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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

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My longstanding practice has been to wait at least a year before buying a new camera model. The bugs get ironed out, features get tweaked, and prices usually drop. I really like my K-5, so am in no hurry. Rick On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:52 Ralf R Radermacher <fotoralf@gmx.de> wrote: > Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine: > > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a > > backup KP body to survive a few years. > > Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses. > > My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite > happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't > think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when > that should ever become necessary. > > I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Bill
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 4:52 PM

On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built
around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer
already has an external battery charger.

bill

On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote: > 2000 That hurts! > The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging > from USB C only. > Not to mention the fixed LCD screen. > The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around an apparently fantastic viewfinder. I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has an external battery charger. bill
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Bill
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 4:59 PM

On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate,
bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS
sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP.
As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from
a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell.

bill

On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote: > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a > backup KP body to survive a few years. > Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate, bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP. As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell. bill
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Toine
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 5:15 PM

Maybe the sensor is something special, no idea, seeing is believing. I
never felt they should be losing money. My feelings: Paying double
(compared to the KP) for a partial upgrade and a partial downgrade
feels strange.
Everytime they claim improved AF, in practice it feels identical
(mediocre). Improved frame rate, buffer, build quality, 4K video
doesn't make me run to the store. Video on Pentax DSLR is an absolute
nightmare compared to the competition.
If the viewfinder and sensor is really special maybe I would bite, but
by then my jaw would be on the floor preventing a firm bite.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 18:59, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate,
bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS
sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP.
As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from
a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell.

bill

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Maybe the sensor is something special, no idea, seeing is believing. I never felt they should be losing money. My feelings: Paying double (compared to the KP) for a partial upgrade and a partial downgrade feels strange. Everytime they claim improved AF, in practice it feels identical (mediocre). Improved frame rate, buffer, build quality, 4K video doesn't make me run to the store. Video on Pentax DSLR is an absolute nightmare compared to the competition. If the viewfinder and sensor is really special maybe I would bite, but by then my jaw would be on the floor preventing a firm bite. On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 18:59, Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote: > > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a > > backup KP body to survive a few years. > > > > Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate, > bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS > sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP. > As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from > a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell. > > bill > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen
Wed, Mar 31, 2021 5:16 PM

On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has an external battery charger.

Aftermarket chargers aren’t terribly expensive, but I already have several.  I often depend on being able to charge multiple extra batteries when I’m not shooting with them.

I find the the articulated screen of the K-1 extremely handy, but make do without it on my K-3s.

I am somewhat hopeful that all of the performance improvements won’t take nearly as long to implement on the K-1 iii as they did on the K-3 iii.  I’m also quite certain that they don’t even want to mention the existence of a future K-1 iii until sales of the K-3 iii have tapered off.

bill

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote: >> 2000 That hurts! >> The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging >> from USB C only. >> Not to mention the fixed LCD screen. > > The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around an apparently fantastic viewfinder. > I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has an external battery charger. Aftermarket chargers aren’t terribly expensive, but I already have several. I often depend on being able to charge multiple extra batteries when I’m not shooting with them. I find the the articulated screen of the K-1 extremely handy, but make do without it on my K-3s. I am somewhat hopeful that all of the performance improvements won’t take nearly as long to implement on the K-1 iii as they did on the K-3 iii. I’m also quite certain that they don’t even want to mention the existence of a future K-1 iii until sales of the K-3 iii have tapered off. > > bill > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >