Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: Auto Tone Auto Colour Auto Contrast Image Adjustments: Brightness reduced Contrast +10% Shadows/Highlights: Mid-Tones +15% And then resized it to 300dpi The result is at www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. John in Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ -- --Gonz -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

My take on Gonz’s scan. I set the black point and white point in levels. Tweaked the color balance to get the best skin tones, Increased saturation a bit to correct for some of the fading. Did a bit of burning and dodging, and that’s about it. Setting the levels was the most critical step in improving this pic. https://www.photo.net/photo/18661069/Gonz-s-Scan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not > enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to > new. How does this work? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > -- > --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Man you guys are wizards. I haven't a clue as to how to perform this kind of magic. On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:02 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > Well I did a "print screen' of Godder's latest and took it a bit > further based solely on what I remember of popular interior decoration > back in the day > around the time I would guess this photo was taken.. "eggshell" or > "off-white" would likely have been the wall color as opposed to gray... > I just alternated adding red and green in little bits at a time in > Photoshop elements to go for the wall color think it might have been. > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-9D55Tj7/A > > ann > > On 9/30/2021 9:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > How you scanned it isn't particularly significant, although a holder will generally make the negative easier to handle and flatter if it's a good holder for the format. > > > > I played with the image a little further … Color balance and skin tones are always so fussy! Bumping up the color temperature to +31 and the tint to +22 gives more pleasing skin tones albeit at the expense of some increased magenta and violet overtones in the shadows. Not unpleasantly much, though: I'd go with this for the better skin tones, and then use the radial filter tool to desaturate and neutralize the corners and edges … thus: > > > > https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/xtQ432 > > > > Doing this kind of image processing is fun. :) > > > > G > > > >> On Sep 30, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Godtrey, It looks a little closer to Dan's now. I didn't have > >> it on a holder, just flat on the scanner. I'm going to try putting it > >> on the holder, though its a very odd size that I don't remember my > >> scanner having it. I have a couple of medium format B&W's that I > >> found in a book from the late 1800's that I want to try to recover as > >> well. > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:30 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > >>> Gonz, > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. > >>> > >>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb > >>> > >>> Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! > >>> > >>> I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... > >>> > >>> enjoy! > >>> G > >>> > >>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with > >>>> color cast and such. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi > >>>> <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > >>>>> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf > >>>>> > >>>>> — > >>>>> G > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> — > >>>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 > >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > >>>>>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > >>>>>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > >>>>>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> --Gonz > >>> -- > >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --Gonz > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- --Gonz

My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a better scan first! I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, but obviously too low rez. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: > Auto Tone > Auto Colour > Auto Contrast > Image Adjustments: > Brightness reduced > Contrast +10% > Shadows/Highlights: > Mid-Tones +15% > > And then resized it to 300dpi > The result is at > www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg > > not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not > enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to > new. How does this work? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > -- > --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- --Gonz

ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? the photo was taken with a flash, yes? ann On 10/1/2021 3:13 PM, Gonz wrote: > My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a > better scan first! I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, > but obviously too low rez. > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: >> Auto Tone >> Auto Colour >> Auto Contrast >> Image Adjustments: >> Brightness reduced >> Contrast +10% >> Shadows/Highlights: >> Mid-Tones +15% >> >> And then resized it to 300dpi >> The result is at >> www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg >> >> not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. >> >> >> John in Brisbane >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >> Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? >> >> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not >> enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to >> new. How does this work? >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >> >> >> -- >> --Gonz >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks

Am 01.10.21 um 21:13 schrieb Gonz: > My scanner is an epson 4990. Nothing wrong with that. You might want to try the demo version of Vuescan: http://www.hamrick.com Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de

The stairs/wall were a light shade of blue. The year was approximately 1968. On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) > when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? > the photo was taken with a flash, yes? > > ann > > > > On 10/1/2021 3:13 PM, Gonz wrote: > > My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a > > better scan first! I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, > > but obviously too low rez. > > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: > >> Auto Tone > >> Auto Colour > >> Auto Contrast > >> Image Adjustments: > >> Brightness reduced > >> Contrast +10% > >> Shadows/Highlights: > >> Mid-Tones +15% > >> > >> And then resized it to 300dpi > >> The result is at > >> www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg > >> > >> not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. > >> > >> > >> John in Brisbane > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> > >> Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >> Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? > >> > >> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not > >> enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to > >> new. How does this work? > >> > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --Gonz > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >> and follow the directions. > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- --Gonz

More like "aquaish" On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 3:16 PM Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > The stairs/wall were a light shade of blue. The year was approximately 1968. > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > > > ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) > > when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? > > the photo was taken with a flash, yes? > > > > ann > > > > > > > > On 10/1/2021 3:13 PM, Gonz wrote: > > > My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a > > > better scan first! I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, > > > but obviously too low rez. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > >> Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: > > >> Auto Tone > > >> Auto Colour > > >> Auto Contrast > > >> Image Adjustments: > > >> Brightness reduced > > >> Contrast +10% > > >> Shadows/Highlights: > > >> Mid-Tones +15% > > >> > > >> And then resized it to 300dpi > > >> The result is at > > >> www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg > > >> > > >> not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. > > >> > > >> > > >> John in Brisbane > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> > > >> Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > > >> Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? > > >> > > >> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not > > >> enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to > > >> new. How does this work? > > >> > > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> --Gonz > > >> -- > > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > >> and follow the directions. > > >> -- > > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ann sanfedele photography > > https://annsan.smugmug.com > > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > > -- > --Gonz -- --Gonz

Thanks Gonz! That suggests to me that my 2nd and 3rd renderings are reasonably close to accurate, given the flash and the corner-edge darkening/color shifting. Whether the most pleasing rendering … LOL! not my job. :) This kind of stuff is a little tricky, but nothing that a bit of time and effort can't make fun. G > On Oct 1, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > More like "aquaish" > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 3:16 PM Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The stairs/wall were a light shade of blue. The year was approximately 1968. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) >>> when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? >>> the photo was taken with a flash, yes? >>> >>> ann

ah  I knew it couldn't be that ugly gray that it became in some of the renditions.. Powder blue and aqua were popular back then.. On 10/1/2021 4:16 PM, Gonz wrote: > The stairs/wall were a light shade of blue. The year was approximately 1968. > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: >> ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) >> when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? >> the photo was taken with a flash, yes? >> >> ann >> >> >> >> On 10/1/2021 3:13 PM, Gonz wrote: >>> My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a >>> better scan first! I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, >>> but obviously too low rez. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>> Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in PS: >>>> Auto Tone >>>> Auto Colour >>>> Auto Contrast >>>> Image Adjustments: >>>> Brightness reduced >>>> Contrast +10% >>>> Shadows/Highlights: >>>> Mid-Tones +15% >>>> >>>> And then resized it to 300dpi >>>> The result is at >>>> www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg >>>> >>>> not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. >>>> >>>> >>>> John in Brisbane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 1:52 AM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>>> Subject: How do I correct an old image like this? >>>> >>>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not >>>> enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to >>>> new. How does this work? >>>> >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --Gonz >>>> -- >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and follow the directions. >>>> -- >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >> -- >> ann sanfedele photography >> https://annsan.smugmug.com >> https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts >> https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan >> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks