Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ -- --Gonz

I’d begin by setting the black point and white point with PhotoShop’s Levels tool. Then I’d dodge and burn as necessary to provide further correction. Once I was satisfied with the range, I’d tweak the color using the Color Balance tool. > On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > -- > --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf — G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > -- > --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with color cast and such. On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > > Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf > > — > G > > > > — > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > > seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > > it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > > like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > > > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > > > > -- > > --Gonz > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- --Gonz

Not bad at all! Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:28 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from > your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf > > — > G > > > > — > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > > seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > > it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > > like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > > > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > > > > > > -- > > --Gonz > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.

Gonz, Thanks! I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... enjoy! G > On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with > color cast and such. > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi > <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >> >> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf >> >> — >> G >> >> >> >> — >> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 >>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --Gonz

Thanks, Godtrey, It looks a little closer to Dan's now. I didn't have it on a holder, just flat on the scanner. I'm going to try putting it on the holder, though its a very odd size that I don't remember my scanner having it. I have a couple of medium format B&W's that I found in a book from the late 1800's that I want to try to recover as well. On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:30 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > > Gonz, > > Thanks! > > I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. > > https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb > > Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! > > I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... > > enjoy! > G > > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with > > color cast and such. > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi > > <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > >> > >> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf > >> > >> — > >> G > >> > >> > >> > >> — > >> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 > >>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant > >>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here > >>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos > >>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? > >>> > >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- --Gonz

GOnz .. were the walls really that color?  (the color in Godfrey's improvement frame...) I'm tempted to play with it too.. but I shouldn't  - I"ve got stuff that needs to be done here ann On 9/30/2021 5:53 PM, Gonz wrote: > Thanks, Godtrey, It looks a little closer to Dan's now. I didn't have > it on a holder, just flat on the scanner. I'm going to try putting it > on the holder, though its a very odd size that I don't remember my > scanner having it. I have a couple of medium format B&W's that I > found in a book from the late 1800's that I want to try to recover as > well. > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:30 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >> Gonz, >> >> Thanks! >> >> I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. >> >> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb >> >> Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! >> >> I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... >> >> enjoy! >> G >> >>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with >>> color cast and such. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi >>> <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf >>>> >>>> — >>>> G >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> — >>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 >>>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>>>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>>>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>>>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --Gonz >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks

How you scanned it isn't particularly significant, although a holder will generally make the negative easier to handle and flatter if it's a good holder for the format. I played with the image a little further … Color balance and skin tones are always so fussy! Bumping up the color temperature to +31 and the tint to +22 gives more pleasing skin tones albeit at the expense of some increased magenta and violet overtones in the shadows. Not unpleasantly much, though: I'd go with this for the better skin tones, and then use the radial filter tool to desaturate and neutralize the corners and edges … thus: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/xtQ432 Doing this kind of image processing is fun. :) G > On Sep 30, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Godtrey, It looks a little closer to Dan's now. I didn't have > it on a holder, just flat on the scanner. I'm going to try putting it > on the holder, though its a very odd size that I don't remember my > scanner having it. I have a couple of medium format B&W's that I > found in a book from the late 1800's that I want to try to recover as > well. > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:30 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >> >> Gonz, >> >> Thanks! >> >> I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. >> >> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb >> >> Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! >> >> I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... >> >> enjoy! >> G >> >>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with >>> color cast and such. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi >>> <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf >>>> >>>> — >>>> G >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> — >>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 >>>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>>>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>>>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>>>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --Gonz >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > > -- > --Gonz > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Well I did a "print screen' of Godder's latest and took it a bit further  based solely on what I remember of popular interior decoration back in the day around the time I would guess this photo was taken.. "eggshell" or "off-white" would likely have been the wall color as opposed to gray... I just alternated adding red and green in little bits at a time in Photoshop elements to go for the wall color think it might have been. https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-9D55Tj7/A ann On 9/30/2021 9:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > How you scanned it isn't particularly significant, although a holder will generally make the negative easier to handle and flatter if it's a good holder for the format. > > I played with the image a little further … Color balance and skin tones are always so fussy! Bumping up the color temperature to +31 and the tint to +22 gives more pleasing skin tones albeit at the expense of some increased magenta and violet overtones in the shadows. Not unpleasantly much, though: I'd go with this for the better skin tones, and then use the radial filter tool to desaturate and neutralize the corners and edges … thus: > > https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/xtQ432 > > Doing this kind of image processing is fun. :) > > G > >> On Sep 30, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Godtrey, It looks a little closer to Dan's now. I didn't have >> it on a holder, just flat on the scanner. I'm going to try putting it >> on the holder, though its a very odd size that I don't remember my >> scanner having it. I have a couple of medium format B&W's that I >> found in a book from the late 1800's that I want to try to recover as >> well. >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:30 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>> Gonz, >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> I'm at home now. I grabbed the original you posted into Lightroom Classic, cropped it, and applied corrections. I noticed that it was left to right reversed according to the rebate markings, so I flipped it horizontally. The result is a bit cooler than what I did on the iPhone with Snapseed, possibly a bit more 'neutral' to what the original print might have looked like … I captured it in the Develop module so you can see the curves and settings I used as a hint to future corrections of similar negatives. >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/E4cPjb >>> >>> Better or worse .. I can't say. LOL! >>> >>> I do a lot of this, mostly with B&W negatives. The part that's hard with negative images is that when you invert them in LR, the controls mostly work inverted and they weren't meant to work that way … it becomes quite hard to execute fine control. So I often rough out approximate corrections, export to positive 16-bit TIFF files, import those, and do the finish editing on the positive images. Makes it a lot easier... >>> >>> enjoy! >>> G >>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> That looks great, and more natural too. I was having issues with >>>> color cast and such. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:28 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi >>>> <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>>> Ten seconds with Snapseed using color balance and curves netted this from your thumbnail: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/N777Kf >>>>> >>>>> — >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> — >>>>> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Gonz <rgonzomatic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>>>>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>>>>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>>>>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --Gonz >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> --Gonz >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks