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John Sessoms
Tue, Jul 12, 2022 7:44 PM

News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera
business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 &
D5600 models.

Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last
"professional" DSLR.

I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures.

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News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 & D5600 models. Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last "professional" DSLR. I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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John Sessoms
Tue, Jul 12, 2022 10:08 PM

News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera
business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 &
D5600 models.

Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last
"professional" DSLR.

I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures.

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DUH! https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/nikon-will-reportedly-join-canon-in-ending-development-on-high-end-dslr-cameras/ On 7/12/2022 3:44 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera > business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 & > D5600 models. > > Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last > "professional" DSLR. > > I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures. > > -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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John Francis
Tue, Jul 12, 2022 10:25 PM

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera
business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 &
D5600 models.

Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last "professional"
DSLR.

I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures.

I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching
away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax.

To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no
matter whose name is on the camera.  I expect the K3-iii to be the last
Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last
kicker to the K-1 line.  But after that there probably won't be enough
potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that
have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can
accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an
electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build
cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts
of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name
but one) on fancier models.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: > News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera > business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 & > D5600 models. > > Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last "professional" > DSLR. > > I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures. I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax. To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no matter whose name is on the camera. I expect the K3-iii to be the last Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last kicker to the K-1 line. But after that there probably won't be enough potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name but one) on fancier models.
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Alan C
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 4:43 AM

Back to the K-01 + EVF?

Alan C

On 13-Jul-22 12:25 AM, John Francis wrote:

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera
business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 &
D5600 models.

Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last "professional"
DSLR.

I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures.

I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching
away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax.

To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no
matter whose name is on the camera.  I expect the K3-iii to be the last
Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last
kicker to the K-1 line.  But after that there probably won't be enough
potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that
have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can
accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an
electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build
cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts
of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name
but one) on fancier models.

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Back to the K-01 + EVF? Alan C On 13-Jul-22 12:25 AM, John Francis wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: >> News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera >> business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 & >> D5600 models. >> >> Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last "professional" >> DSLR. >> >> I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures. > I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching > away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax. > > To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no > matter whose name is on the camera. I expect the K3-iii to be the last > Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last > kicker to the K-1 line. But after that there probably won't be enough > potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that > have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can > accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an > electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build > cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts > of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name > but one) on fancier models. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Henk Terhell
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 3:10 PM

The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an
interview:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/interview/1419830.html

Henk

Op wo 13 jul. 2022 om 00:25 schreef John Francis johnf@panix.com:

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera
business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 &
D5600 models.

Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last

"professional"

DSLR.

I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures.

I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching
away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax.

To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no
matter whose name is on the camera.  I expect the K3-iii to be the last
Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last
kicker to the K-1 line.  But after that there probably won't be enough
potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that
have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can
accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an
electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build
cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts
of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name
but one) on fancier models.

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The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an interview: https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/interview/1419830.html Henk Op wo 13 jul. 2022 om 00:25 schreef John Francis <johnf@panix.com>: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 03:44:15PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: > > News article that says Nikon will be getting out of the DSLR camera > > business. They've recently discontinued their entry-level DSLRs D3500 & > > D5600 models. > > > > Canon already announced their EOS-1D X Mark III is their last > "professional" > > DSLR. > > > > I don't know if this is good news for Pentax? I hope the brand endures. > > I don't see it being good news for Pentax - I don't expect people switching > away from Nikon (or Canon) DSLRs are going to choose to switch to Pentax. > > To be frank, I don't see the DSLR market surviving that much longer, no > matter whose name is on the camera. I expect the K3-iii to be the last > Pentax APS-C body with a mirror; I can see there possibly being one last > kicker to the K-1 line. But after that there probably won't be enough > potential purchasers to recoup development costs on any new bodies that > have a mirror box and optical viewfinder. Any other new bodies that can > accept K-mount lenses (whatever the sensor size) will probably have an > electronic shutter and an electronic viewfinder. That lowers the build > cost for low-end bodies, and allows for faster frame rates, and all sorts > of additional features (remote control with a remote viewfinder, to name > but one) on fancier models. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
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Ralf R Radermacher
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 3:49 PM

Am 13.07.22 um 17:10 schrieb Henk Terhell:

The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an
interview:

"No-one intends to erect a wall!" (Walter Ulbricht in June 1961, two
months before it was built).

Ralf

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Am 13.07.22 um 17:10 schrieb Henk Terhell: > The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an > interview: "No-one intends to erect a wall!" (Walter Ulbricht in June 1961, two months before it was built). Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Bill
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 6:29 PM

In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market.
It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad
place to be.

bill

On Wed., Jul. 13, 2022, 9:49 a.m. Ralf R Radermacher, fotoralf@gmx.de
wrote:

Am 13.07.22 um 17:10 schrieb Henk Terhell:

The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an
interview:

"No-one intends to erect a wall!" (Walter Ulbricht in June 1961, two
months before it was built).

Ralf

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In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market. It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad place to be. bill On Wed., Jul. 13, 2022, 9:49 a.m. Ralf R Radermacher, <fotoralf@gmx.de> wrote: > Am 13.07.22 um 17:10 schrieb Henk Terhell: > > > The president of Ricoh is still positive on the future of Pentax in an > > interview: > > "No-one intends to erect a wall!" (Walter Ulbricht in June 1961, two > months before it was built). > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Steve Sharpe
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 11:53 PM

...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for mirrorless cameras made by other companies...

Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it?

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote:

In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market.
It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad
place to be.

bill

  • Steve
...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for mirrorless cameras made by other companies... Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it? On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote: > In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market. > It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad > place to be. > > bill - Steve
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Rick Womer
Thu, Jul 14, 2022 12:34 AM

Pentax leadership must have a drug problem. I did a good deal of shooting
with 3 other photographers recently, and their question was “Is Pentax
really still in business?”

Rick

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 19:53 Steve Sharpe dx-3@eastlink.ca wrote:

...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for
mirrorless cameras made by other companies...

Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it?

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote:

In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market.
It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad
place to be.

bill

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Pentax leadership must have a drug problem. I did a good deal of shooting with 3 other photographers recently, and their question was “Is Pentax really still in business?” Rick On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 19:53 Steve Sharpe <dx-3@eastlink.ca> wrote: > ...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for > mirrorless cameras made by other companies... > > Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it? > > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote: > > In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market. > > It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad > > place to be. > > > > bill > > - Steve > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
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Bill
Thu, Jul 14, 2022 10:31 AM

There is a very western business affliction that assumes because a company
isn't tge biggest in the market its a failure.
It's a bullshit concept among sheep who have been brainwashed into
believing rampant capitalism is one true way.
Pentax as an SLR maker will do just fine as the only player in the
marketplace.

bill

On Wed., Jul. 13, 2022, 6:34 p.m. Rick Womer, rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax leadership must have a drug problem. I did a good deal of shooting
with 3 other photographers recently, and their question was “Is Pentax
really still in business?”

Rick

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 19:53 Steve Sharpe dx-3@eastlink.ca wrote:

...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for
mirrorless cameras made by other companies...

Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it?

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote:

In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market.
It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad
place to be.

bill

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There is a very western business affliction that assumes because a company isn't tge biggest in the market its a failure. It's a bullshit concept among sheep who have been brainwashed into believing rampant capitalism is one true way. Pentax as an SLR maker will do just fine as the only player in the marketplace. bill On Wed., Jul. 13, 2022, 6:34 p.m. Rick Womer, <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: > Pentax leadership must have a drug problem. I did a good deal of shooting > with 3 other photographers recently, and their question was “Is Pentax > really still in business?” > > Rick > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 19:53 Steve Sharpe <dx-3@eastlink.ca> wrote: > > > ...As long as the remaining Pentax users don't desert the brand for > > mirrorless cameras made by other companies... > > > > Oh, wait...that's already happening, isn't it? > > > > > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:29:52 -0600, Bill wrote: > > > In a few years Pentax will be alone in the SLR market. > > > It will be a small market, but being the only player in it isn't a bad > > > place to be. > > > > > > bill > > > > - Steve > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.