pdml@pdml.net

Pentax-Discuss Mail List

View all threads

The new K3 iii

DJ
Daniel J. Matyola
Mon, Apr 26, 2021 12:49 PM

Excellent image!

Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:30 AM rrvelar@virginmedia.com wrote:

Bill  wrote:

Check this out. Shot with the D FA*50/1.4

https://flic.kr/p/2kJFZ77

=============================

Very nice Bill, just confirms my opinion of it.

Malcolm

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

Excellent image! Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:30 AM <rrvelar@virginmedia.com> wrote: > > > Bill wrote: > > Check this out. Shot with the D FA*50/1.4 > > https://flic.kr/p/2kJFZ77 > > ============================= > > Very nice Bill, just confirms my opinion of it. > > Malcolm > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
MW
mike wilson
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 11:42 AM

On 24 April 2021 at 16:11 rrvelar@virginmedia.com wrote:

Bill wrote:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1, and I don't think there is any reason to think it won't be, I suspect it is going to be quite pricey.

I saw a message on my camera dealers website, which said that the first batch of the new K3 were due, and would go straight out to those who pre-ordered them. It won't be enough, so the next batch in next week will go out the same way - and anyone who ordered in the last week or from now it will be later in May when they see it arrive. I might have made the second batch to be sent.

The point is that a DSLR which supposedly is missing features and is very expensive is not so much flying off the shelves, but flying off before they make the shelves.

I see the future K1 iii selling as well as this.

Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished?  I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent.

> On 24 April 2021 at 16:11 rrvelar@virginmedia.com wrote: > > > Bill wrote: > > >As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1, and I don't think there is any reason to think it won't be, I suspect it is going to be quite pricey. > > I saw a message on my camera dealers website, which said that the first batch of the new K3 were due, and would go straight out to those who pre-ordered them. It won't be enough, so the next batch in next week will go out the same way - and anyone who ordered in the last week or from now it will be later in May when they see it arrive. I might have made the second batch to be sent. > > The point is that a DSLR which supposedly is missing features and is very expensive is not so much flying off the shelves, but flying off before they make the shelves. > > I see the future K1 iii selling as well as this. Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished? I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent.
RR
Ralf R Radermacher
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 12:16 PM

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...

Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: > As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
HT
Henk Terhell
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 12:26 PM

Thanks Ralf, no idea either and I thought it was a stupid question to ask.

Henk

Op 2021-04-27 om 14:16 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...

Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

Thanks Ralf, no idea either and I thought it was a stupid question to ask. Henk Op 2021-04-27 om 14:16 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: > Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: > >> As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... > > Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
AS
ann sanfedele
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 12:54 PM

"everything but the kitchen sink"  is idiom in English  - this
definition I found online defines it nicely .. it includes "kitchen
sink" by itself..

"You use -everything but the kitchen sink- to talk about a lot of
different objects, /many of which are unnecessary/. "They tend to pack
everything but the kitchen sink in rather too many suitcases." Note:
Kitchen sink is used in other structures to mean a lot of different
objects. "Their stores sell everything including the kitchen sink."

ann

On 4/27/2021 8:26 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Thanks Ralf, no idea either and I thought it was a stupid question to
ask.

Henk

Op 2021-04-27 om 14:16 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...

Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
and follow the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

"everything but the kitchen sink"  is idiom in English  - this definition I found online defines it nicely .. it includes "kitchen sink" by itself.. "You use -everything but the kitchen sink- to talk about a lot of different objects, /many of which are unnecessary/. "They tend to pack everything but the kitchen sink in rather too many suitcases." Note: Kitchen sink is used in other structures to mean a lot of different objects. "Their stores sell everything including the kitchen sink." ann On 4/27/2021 8:26 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > Thanks Ralf, no idea either and I thought it was a stupid question to > ask. > > Henk > > Op 2021-04-27 om 14:16 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: >> Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: >> >>> As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... >> >> Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany >> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
AC
Alan C
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 1:05 PM

Phrases
everything but the kitchen sink—everything imaginable.

Alan C

On 27-Apr-21 02:16 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...

Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

Phrases everything but the kitchen sink—everything imaginable. Alan C On 27-Apr-21 02:16 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: > >> As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... > > Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
B
Bill
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 2:50 PM

On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished?  I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent.

That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the
last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a
long warm autumn that year.

We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a
refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in
2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013
so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a
water tank after owning a demand heater.

In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem
to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced
us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it
right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the
driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done
on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls
braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am.
Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work
done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity.

At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a
storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination
wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking
shop.

The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the
pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our
hearts after them are now all grown up as well.

bill

On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished? I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent. That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a long warm autumn that year. We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in 2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013 so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a water tank after owning a demand heater. In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am. Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity. At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking shop. The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our hearts after them are now all grown up as well. bill
PJ
P. J. Alling
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 3:38 PM

"Everything except the kitchen sink" is a phrase that implies something
has every thing for every one.  Except the K-1 isn't that.  It's frame
rate is too slow for the dedicated sports and modern wildlife
photographers. It's video capabilities can best be described as
existing.  I would say it's a landscape field camera, and, with a
tilt/shift lens architectural, or, studio/portrait/product camera, for
someone, with methodical technique, who can't really justify the expense
of medium format.

On 4/27/2021 8:16 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:

As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...

Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

--
Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax.

"Everything except the kitchen sink" is a phrase that implies something has every thing for every one.  Except the K-1 isn't that.  It's frame rate is too slow for the dedicated sports and modern wildlife photographers. It's video capabilities can best be described as existing.  I would say it's a landscape field camera, and, with a tilt/shift lens architectural, or, studio/portrait/product camera, for someone, with methodical technique, who can't really justify the expense of medium format. On 4/27/2021 8:16 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: > >> As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... > > Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax.
MW
mike wilson
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 4:22 PM

Thanks, Bill.  I think the last I remember of your renovations was trying to decide whether to construct a mezzanine or not.  Is that right?

It was actually Malcolm who left us, figuratively, roofless.

On 27 April 2021 at 15:50 Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished?  I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent.

That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the
last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a
long warm autumn that year.

We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a
refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in
2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013
so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a
water tank after owning a demand heater.

In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem
to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced
us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it
right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the
driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done
on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls
braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am.
Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work
done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity.

At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a
storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination
wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking
shop.

The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the
pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our
hearts after them are now all grown up as well.

Thanks, Bill. I think the last I remember of your renovations was trying to decide whether to construct a mezzanine or not. Is that right? It was actually Malcolm who left us, figuratively, roofless. > On 27 April 2021 at 15:50 Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > > > > Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished? I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent. > > That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the > last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a > long warm autumn that year. > > We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a > refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in > 2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013 > so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a > water tank after owning a demand heater. > > In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem > to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced > us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it > right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the > driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done > on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls > braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am. > Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work > done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity. > > At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a > storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination > wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking > shop. > > The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the > pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our > hearts after them are now all grown up as well.
B
Bill
Tue, Apr 27, 2021 4:45 PM

On 4/27/2021 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Thanks, Bill.  I think the last I remember of your renovations was trying to decide whether to construct a mezzanine or not.  Is that right?

I don't recall that ever being in the plan. We did leave a loft
overlooking the main floor, but that was in the plan right from the
start. Right now we are trying to decide if we want to extend the second
floor over part of it to add another bedroom, as we only have one.
The price of building materials being what they are right now, it's
going to be in the planning phase for a very long time.
Dimensional lumber is something like three times what it should be, and
sheet products such as softwood plywood and OSB are between two and 5
times more than they have any right to be.

bill

It was actually Malcolm who left us, figuratively, roofless.

On 27 April 2021 at 15:50 Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished?  I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent.

That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the
last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a
long warm autumn that year.

We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a
refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in
2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013
so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a
water tank after owning a demand heater.

In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem
to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced
us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it
right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the
driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done
on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls
braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am.
Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work
done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity.

At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a
storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination
wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking
shop.

The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the
pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our
hearts after them are now all grown up as well.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

On 4/27/2021 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote: > Thanks, Bill. I think the last I remember of your renovations was trying to decide whether to construct a mezzanine or not. Is that right? I don't recall that ever being in the plan. We did leave a loft overlooking the main floor, but that was in the plan right from the start. Right now we are trying to decide if we want to extend the second floor over part of it to add another bedroom, as we only have one. The price of building materials being what they are right now, it's going to be in the planning phase for a very long time. Dimensional lumber is something like three times what it should be, and sheet products such as softwood plywood and OSB are between two and 5 times more than they have any right to be. bill > > It was actually Malcolm who left us, figuratively, roofless. > >> On 27 April 2021 at 15:50 Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On 4/27/2021 5:42 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> >>> >>> Just because thread drift is a catalogued feature of PDML, did you get your house modifications finished? I think the last time we heard about it, you were sans roof with snow imminent. >> >> That was 2003. We got lucky, it was the end of October before we got the >> last of the windows installed and had the place closed up, but we had a >> long warm autumn that year. >> >> We are pretty much done, and at the point where everything needs a >> refresh. The furnace we installed in 2003 failed and was replaced in >> 2016, the roof was redone in early 2017, the water tank failed in 2013 >> so we put a gas fired tankless heater in. I would never go back to a >> water tank after owning a demand heater. >> >> In 2011, we had one of those once in a century weather events that seem >> to happen every ten years or so, which flooded the basement and forced >> us to look hard at what was going on down there. We ended up gutting it >> right back to the concrete walls, and ended up having to rip out the >> driveway to allow the foundation to be waterproofed (if this isn't done >> on the outside, it's not going to work), and we had to have 3 walls >> braced with 6" steel c-channels. This is pretty common where I am. >> Pretty much any basement that hasn't been braced will need that work >> done eventually. We have really bad conditions for basement longevity. >> >> At that time, the darkroom came out, and eventually morphed into a >> storage area, and the multi purpose room that had been a combination >> wine making room, TV room and photo studio got rebuilt as a woodworking >> shop. >> >> The dogs we had then have long since gone to doggie heaven, as have the >> pair we got after that, and the puppies that found their way into our >> hearts after them are now all grown up as well. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >