I've also heard it used as "throw everything including the kitchen sink" to describe an all out, do-or-die maximum effort. On 4/27/2021 09:05:43, Alan C wrote: > Phrases > everything but the kitchen sink—everything imaginable. > > Alan C > > > On 27-Apr-21 02:16 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill: >> >>> As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1... >> >> Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera? >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany >> Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de >> -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.

> On 27 April 2021 at 17:45 Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 4/27/2021 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > Thanks, Bill. I think the last I remember of your renovations was trying to decide whether to construct a mezzanine or not. Is that right? > > I don't recall that ever being in the plan. We did leave a loft > overlooking the main floor, but that was in the plan right from the > start. Right now we are trying to decide if we want to extend the second > floor over part of it to add another bedroom, as we only have one. > The price of building materials being what they are right now, it's > going to be in the planning phase for a very long time. > Dimensional lumber is something like three times what it should be, and > sheet products such as softwood plywood and OSB are between two and 5 > times more than they have any right to be. > > bill Prices here have gone up but not to those levels. My gripe at the moment is that every company I approach to buy replacements/spares has gone extinct. A repacement piece of guttering turns into a whole system change and turns from a £10 job into a £130 one.