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Bob Pdml
Tue, Sep 7, 2021 5:51 PM
People who pay by phone on the tube during rush hour in London are a monstrous pain in the ass as it takes longer for the device to do its thing than it takes for Oyster or contactless, which are instant. This means that the rhythm of people going through the barriers is disturbed, and minor queues build up with jockeying for position into other lines, which causes further disruption, and so ad infinitum.
People who pay by phone on the tube during rush hour in London are a monstrous pain in the ass as it takes longer for the device to do its thing than it takes for Oyster or contactless, which are instant. This means that the rhythm of people going through the barriers is disturbed, and minor queues build up with jockeying for position into other lines, which causes further disruption, and so ad infinitum.
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ann sanfedele
Tue, Sep 7, 2021 5:55 PM
I'm going to ask my bank to remove the feature if they can...
I dont have an OMNI card - that is the point... THe omni machine on the
busses and on subways read any card you have that is contactless..
IF the Omni card reader were farther away from the slot we put metro
cards in, I would not have lost my $2.75..
There have been stories of those using contactless procedures and been
charged twice... those with lots more funds than I have would probably
never know..
ann
On 9/7/2021 1:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't know whether US banks/credit card providers offer a service to turn off contactless. And I doubt that many issuers are going to offer contactless cards since everyone wants contactless payment now … less chance of spreading diseases that way … and it always costs money to keep separate products avialable as choices.
Quite a few places I go to are not even taking cash nowadays, for the same reason.
Simplest thing to do is to keep your OMNI card separate from your credit/debit cards, and keep the credit/debit cards in an RFID-blocking sleeve, IMO. My little Bellroy wallet has the RFID-blocking material built into it; I use my phone to do most of my purchase transactions anyway nowadays.
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I'm going to ask my bank to remove the feature if they can...
I dont have an OMNI card - that is the point... THe omni machine on the
busses and on subways read any card you have that is contactless..
IF the Omni card reader were farther away from the slot we put metro
cards in, I would not have lost my $2.75..
There have been stories of those using contactless procedures and been
charged twice... those with lots more funds than I have would probably
never know..
ann
On 9/7/2021 1:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> I don't know whether US banks/credit card providers offer a service to turn off contactless. And I doubt that many issuers are going to offer contactless cards since everyone wants contactless payment now … less chance of spreading diseases that way … and it always costs money to keep separate products avialable as choices.
>
> Quite a few places I go to are not even taking cash nowadays, for the same reason.
>
> Simplest thing to do is to keep your OMNI card separate from your credit/debit cards, and keep the credit/debit cards in an RFID-blocking sleeve, IMO. My little Bellroy wallet has the RFID-blocking material built into it; I use my phone to do most of my purchase transactions anyway nowadays.
>
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P. J. Alling
Wed, Sep 8, 2021 9:50 PM
You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
swipe strip..
may have to go back to carrying just cash
ann
On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a sleeve
without taking the
card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
Bill
On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, annsan@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
Intro:
we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker" symbol
on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card.. just
swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got too
close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
what
happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should keep my
credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
swish
instead of insert a card ...
anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my regular
chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
regular chip and not near the
swipe strip.
Thanks
ann
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You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
> At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
> and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
> swipe strip..
>
> may have to go back to carrying just cash
>
> ann
>
> On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
>> I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a sleeve
>> without taking the
>> card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, <annsan@nyc.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Intro:
>>> we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker" symbol
>>> on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card.. just
>>> swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
>>> takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
>>> busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
>>> still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
>>> credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
>>> the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
>>> slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
>>> MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
>>> and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got too
>>> close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
>>>
>>> NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
>>> what
>>> happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should keep my
>>> credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
>>> I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
>>> swish
>>> instead of insert a card ...
>>>
>>> anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my regular
>>> chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
>>> regular chip and not near the
>>> swipe strip.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> ann
>>>
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ann sanfedele
Wed, Sep 8, 2021 10:56 PM
I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
swipe strip..
may have to go back to carrying just cash
ann
On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
sleeve without taking the
card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
Bill
On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, annsan@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
Intro:
we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
symbol
on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
just
swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
too
close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
what
happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
keep my
credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
swish
instead of insert a card ...
anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
regular
chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
regular chip and not near the
swipe strip.
Thanks
ann
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I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
> think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
> probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
> banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
> economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
>
> This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
> often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
> can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
>
> On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
>> At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
>> and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
>> swipe strip..
>>
>> may have to go back to carrying just cash
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
>>> I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
>>> sleeve without taking the
>>> card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, <annsan@nyc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Intro:
>>>> we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
>>>> symbol
>>>> on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
>>>> just
>>>> swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
>>>> takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
>>>> busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
>>>> still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
>>>> credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
>>>> the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
>>>> slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
>>>> MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
>>>> and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
>>>> too
>>>> close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
>>>>
>>>> NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
>>>> what
>>>> happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
>>>> keep my
>>>> credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
>>>> I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
>>>> swish
>>>> instead of insert a card ...
>>>>
>>>> anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
>>>> regular
>>>> chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
>>>> regular chip and not near the
>>>> swipe strip.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> ann
>>>>
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>>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com
>>>> https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
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mike wilson
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 1:10 AM
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
swipe strip..
may have to go back to carrying just cash
ann
On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
sleeve without taking the
card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
Bill
On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, annsan@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
Intro:
we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
symbol
on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
just
swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
too
close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
what
happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
keep my
credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
swish
instead of insert a card ...
anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
regular
chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
regular chip and not near the
swipe strip.
Thanks
ann
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
> On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
> off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
> as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
> chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
> feature was imbedded right under the chip .
>
> but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
> other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
> I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
> one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
>
> I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
> find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
> too heavy I'll switch.
>
> ann
>
> On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
> > think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
> > probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
> > banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
> > economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
> >
> > This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
> > often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
> > can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
> >
> > On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >> I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
> >> At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
> >> and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
> >> swipe strip..
> >>
> >> may have to go back to carrying just cash
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
> >>> I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
> >>> sleeve without taking the
> >>> card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, <annsan@nyc.rr.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Intro:
> >>>> we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
> >>>> symbol
> >>>> on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
> >>>> just
> >>>> swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
> >>>> takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
> >>>> busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
> >>>> still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
> >>>> credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
> >>>> the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
> >>>> slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
> >>>> MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
> >>>> and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
> >>>> too
> >>>> close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
> >>>>
> >>>> NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
> >>>> what
> >>>> happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
> >>>> keep my
> >>>> credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
> >>>> I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
> >>>> swish
> >>>> instead of insert a card ...
> >>>>
> >>>> anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
> >>>> regular
> >>>> chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
> >>>> regular chip and not near the
> >>>> swipe strip.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> ann
BP
Bob Pdml
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 7:45 AM
It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
> On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
>
>> On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
>> off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
>> as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
>> chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
>> feature was imbedded right under the chip .
>>
>> but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
>> other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
>> I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
>> one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
>>
>> I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
>> find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
>> too heavy I'll switch.
>>
>> ann
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ann sanfedele
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 11:38 AM
Right - I understand. but my bank didn't - I could try again.. but I
spent quite a lot of time with a young lady searching for info on how to
do it and their only solution was that I get an ATM card juts for taking
out cash. The bank is and I told them about it being possible in England.
I may try again..
On 9/8/2021 9:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
swipe strip..
may have to go back to carrying just cash
ann
On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
sleeve without taking the
card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
Bill
On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, annsan@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
Intro:
we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
symbol
on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
just
swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
too
close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
what
happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
keep my
credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
swish
instead of insert a card ...
anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
regular
chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
regular chip and not near the
swipe strip.
Thanks
ann
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Right - I understand. but my bank didn't - I could try again.. but I
spent quite a lot of time with a young lady searching for info on how to
do it and their only solution was that I get an ATM card juts for taking
out cash. The bank is and I told them about it being possible in England.
I may try again..
On 9/8/2021 9:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
>
>> On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
>> off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
>> as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
>> chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
>> feature was imbedded right under the chip .
>>
>> but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
>> other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
>> I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
>> one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
>>
>> I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
>> find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
>> too heavy I'll switch.
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 9/8/2021 5:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> You could do worse than just cash. Unfortunately anything that I can
>>> think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would
>>> probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time. The
>>> banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your
>>> economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.
>>>
>>> This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as
>>> often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace. It also
>>> can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.
>>>
>>> On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>>> I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
>>>> At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
>>>> and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the
>>>> swipe strip..
>>>>
>>>> may have to go back to carrying just cash
>>>>
>>>> ann
>>>>
>>>> On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a
>>>>> sleeve without taking the
>>>>> card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue., Sep. 7, 2021, 7:46 a.m. ann sanfedele, <annsan@nyc.rr.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Intro:
>>>>>> we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker"
>>>>>> symbol
>>>>>> on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card..
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and it
>>>>>> takes your money. IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
>>>>>> busses and subways. since I am a senior I have my own card which one
>>>>>> still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
>>>>>> credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever that does not keep
>>>>>> the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
>>>>>> slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
>>>>>> MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
>>>>>> and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should
>>>>>> keep my
>>>>>> credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
>>>>>> I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you
>>>>>> swish
>>>>>> instead of insert a card ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my
>>>>>> regular
>>>>>> chip or swipe strip? IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
>>>>>> regular chip and not near the
>>>>>> swipe strip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> ann
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ann sanfedele
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 11:47 AM
I don't ever sign into my bank on line.. but the person I talked to was
not one of the staff that knew me personally -
I can try again when someone I know well is on staff and phrase it
differently... also.. it may only have been jammed because they
wanted to send me a special code to my cell phone and I had my cell
phone company remove texting from my account.. of course,
I still get a text from the phone company after I pay my bill.
Thanks, Bob
ann
On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:
I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
feature was imbedded right under the chip .
but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
too heavy I'll switch.
ann
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I don't ever sign into my bank on line.. but the person I talked to was
not one of the staff that knew me personally -
I can try again when someone I know well is on staff and phrase it
differently... also.. it may only have been jammed because they
wanted to send me a special code to my cell phone and I had my cell
phone company remove texting from my account.. of course,
I still get a text from the phone company after I pay my bill.
Thanks, Bob
ann
On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
> It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
>
>> On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
>>
>>> On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn
>>> off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
>>> as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the
>>> chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
>>> feature was imbedded right under the chip .
>>>
>>> but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each
>>> other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
>>> I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only
>>> one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
>>>
>>> I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can
>>> find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
>>> too heavy I'll switch.
>>>
>>> ann
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ann sanfedele
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 2:57 PM
P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
none I've seen on line so far
are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
RFID. Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.
ann
On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
none I've seen on line so far
are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
RFID. Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.
ann
On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
> It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
>
>> On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
>>
MW
mike wilson
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 4:08 PM
On 09 September 2021 at 15:57 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:
P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
none I've seen on line so far
are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
RFID. Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.
ann
Aluminium foil is your friend. 8 -)
On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
> On 09 September 2021 at 15:57 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
> wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
> none I've seen on line so far
> are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
> RFID. Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.
>
> ann
Aluminium foil is your friend. 8 -)
>
> On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
> > It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.
> >
> >> On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card. It just alters the protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
> >>
