16-50 redo
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
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On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
I must admit to a burning curiosity over the "strict standards of the next-generation star series" which, without the benefit of futuresight, I would have described as theoretical aspirations. Or maybe I just woke up particularly skeptical this morning.
PLM versus SDM will make the difference in properties as well as
identification.
My Tamron 17-50/2.8 needs no replacement yet at a cost of $1400.
Henk
Op 2021-07-15 om 08:49 schreef Larry Colen:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
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Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of
things I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which
I cannot afford.
I expect, based on the new selling price of the K-3III that the price
for this lens will be astronomical, (not to mention the fact that
inflation is heating up and will end up eroding even more purchasing power).
I do hope that Ricoh sells a boat load of them, to keep the K mount
system alive.
On 7/15/2021 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
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For K-1 we have the 24-70. Same FOV,
Paul
On Jul 15, 2021, at 7:10 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwentysix@gmail.com wrote:
Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of things I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which I cannot afford.
I expect, based on the new selling price of the K-3III that the price for this lens will be astronomical, (not to mention the fact that inflation is heating up and will end up eroding even more purchasing power).
I do hope that Ricoh sells a boat load of them, to keep the K mount system alive.
On 7/15/2021 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
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On 7/15/2021 12:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
The K1 crowd just got a full refresh of the 31mm, 43mm and 77mm Limited
lenses. Last year was the D FA85/1.4 and the DFA 70-210/4, the only
lenses introduced that year.. The year before that was the refresh of
the 35/2 along with a refreshed DA10-17, in 2017 they introduced the
DFA50/1.4.
In 2016, two of the three lenses they introduced were full frame lenses
and in 2015 three of the five lenses they introduced were for full
frame. That year they also released a 645 lens.
The D FA 21mm LTD (another lens for the K1 crowd) will likely be
announced within the next couple of months and should be on the market
sometime in the fall.
I don't think the release of a lens to replace one that desperately
needed replacing in the APS-C format is any kind of portent of bad
things for full frame.
What was concerning was the lack of a new APS-C flagship. The K3 is a
2013 release, and it got mildly pimped up up in 2015. Six to eight years
was starting to look like the APS-C line was being relegated to red
haired stepchild status, with second tier bodies becoming all that those
users were going to be offered.
I expect that the Pentax 645 line isn't going forwards. I suspect they
will quietly abandon it.
bill
On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
I must admit to a burning curiosity over the "strict standards of the next-generation star series" which, without the benefit of futuresight, I would have described as theoretical aspirations. Or maybe I just woke up particularly skeptical this morning.
You just haven't been paying attention. The Star series lenses are
moving towards optical performance with no compromises, and sufficiently
high optical standards to be able to support much higher pixel densities.
One of the things I noticed when moving up the pixel count ladder was
that lenses that were great at 6mp became lens and less good as the
pixel count increased and their weaknesses were exaggerated. Ricoh is
making the new Star lenses to a much higher optical standard in an
attempt to future proof the designs as much as possible.
And yes, they are also moving towards being very expensive objects. The
price of admission for the 16-50 will be in the US$2k range, which is a
significant price jump from the just over US$1k price of the lens it is
replacing.
bill
On 15 July 2021 at 16:12 Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is available.
I must admit to a burning curiosity over the "strict standards of the next-generation star series" which, without the benefit of futuresight, I would have described as theoretical aspirations. Or maybe I just woke up particularly skeptical this morning.
You just haven't been paying attention. The Star series lenses are
moving towards optical performance with no compromises, and sufficiently
high optical standards to be able to support much higher pixel densities.
Sounds like an aspiration to me.
One of the things I noticed when moving up the pixel count ladder was
that lenses that were great at 6mp became lens and less good as the
pixel count increased and their weaknesses were exaggerated. Ricoh is
making the new Star lenses to a much higher optical standard in an
attempt to future proof the designs as much as possible.
And again.
And yes, they are also moving towards being very expensive objects. The
price of admission for the 16-50 will be in the US$2k range, which is a
significant price jump from the just over US$1k price of the lens it is
replacing.
My aspiration is to have the pennies to play in the deep end of the pool.
$1400 according to Imaging Resource:
https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2021/07/14/ricoh-announced-new-da-16-50mm-f-2.8-aps-c-with-new-advanced-pulse-motor-pl
Henk
Op 2021-07-15 om 17:12 schreef Bill:
On 7/15/2021 1:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 15 July 2021 at 07:49 Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50
or some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for
the original.
I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not
so well for the K-1 crowd.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs
once it is available.
I must admit to a burning curiosity over the "strict standards of the
next-generation star series" which, without the benefit of
futuresight, I would have described as theoretical aspirations. Or
maybe I just woke up particularly skeptical this morning.
You just haven't been paying attention. The Star series lenses are
moving towards optical performance with no compromises, and
sufficiently high optical standards to be able to support much higher
pixel densities.
One of the things I noticed when moving up the pixel count ladder was
that lenses that were great at 6mp became lens and less good as the
pixel count increased and their weaknesses were exaggerated. Ricoh is
making the new Star lenses to a much higher optical standard in an
attempt to future proof the designs as much as possible.
And yes, they are also moving towards being very expensive objects.
The price of admission for the 16-50 will be in the US$2k range, which
is a significant price jump from the just over US$1k price of the lens
it is replacing.
bill
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I think you speak for a lot of us there, PJ!
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 7:10 AM P. J. Alling webstertwentysix@gmail.com
wrote:
Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of
things I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which
I cannot afford.