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Juan Buhler
Fri, Apr 2, 2021 8:30 PM

Glad y'all are getting shots!

I got my first dose of Pfizer yesterday, the first day I qualify (yay!). I
took the day off and drove 1.5hs, two counties away, to an area with
appointments available. Some areas in California have zero slots open,
while in others you can choose your spot in 15' increments. Let's
politicize all the things I guess, yikes.

No side effects other than feeling tired last night, of course I was so
excited about finally getting the vaccine the night before that I barely
slept. The scale of the scientific achievement this represents is amazing.
It makes me extremely sad that some people would rather not participate.

j

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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:

common talk is that you guys don't get hit with as much discomfort as we
ladies do..you should be feeling fine by tomorrow.

ann

On 4/2/2021 4:11 PM, Mark C wrote:

Congrats on getting through it. I get my second Pfizer jab Wednesday.
My calendar is clear for the few days following (but then its been
pretty clear for the past 12 months...)

Mark

On 3/31/2021 5:34 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day
misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and
chills overnight wasn't much fun and
the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was
not quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.

anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide -
certainly got a lot on FB

It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up
without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance

ann

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Glad y'all are getting shots! I got my first dose of Pfizer yesterday, the first day I qualify (yay!). I took the day off and drove 1.5hs, two counties away, to an area with appointments available. Some areas in California have zero slots open, while in others you can choose your spot in 15' increments. Let's politicize all the things I guess, yikes. No side effects other than feeling tired last night, of course I was so excited about finally getting the vaccine the night before that I barely slept. The scale of the scientific achievement this represents is amazing. It makes me extremely sad that some people would rather not participate. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.juanbuhler.com On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > common talk is that you guys don't get hit with as much discomfort as we > ladies do..you should be feeling fine by tomorrow. > > ann > > On 4/2/2021 4:11 PM, Mark C wrote: > > Congrats on getting through it. I get my second Pfizer jab Wednesday. > > My calendar is clear for the few days following (but then its been > > pretty clear for the past 12 months...) > > > > Mark > > > > On 3/31/2021 5:34 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > >> I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day > >> misery.. didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and > >> chills overnight wasn't much fun and > >> the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was > >> not quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now. > >> > >> anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide - > >> certainly got a lot on FB > >> > >> It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up > >> without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance > >> > >> ann > >> > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
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John
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 1:57 AM

Question: Do y'all usually have a reaction to the flu shot?

I kind of had a thought that maybe people who feel "flu like symptoms" a day or
so after getting the flu shot would be more prone to having a reaction to the
Covid vaccine.

I've never had a reaction to the flu shot, and I had none to the Covid vaccine
(either shot).

So, I'm kind of wondering about others reaction to the Covid vaccine in relation
to their reaction to the flu shot. Was it the same or did you have a reaction to
one and not the other?

On 3/31/2021 21:01:03, Rick Womer wrote:

Second jab is rough. The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your
still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good!

I had the same symptoms without the fever after jab 2. They’re very common,
particularly in younger folks than you.

Rick

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 17:34 ann sanfedele annsan@nyc.rr.com wrote:

I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day
misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and
chills overnight wasn't much fun and
the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not
quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.

anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide -
certainly got a lot on FB

It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up
without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance

ann

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Question: Do y'all usually have a reaction to the flu shot? I kind of had a thought that maybe people who feel "flu like symptoms" a day or so after getting the flu shot would be more prone to having a reaction to the Covid vaccine. I've never had a reaction to the flu shot, and I had none to the Covid vaccine (either shot). So, I'm kind of wondering about others reaction to the Covid vaccine in relation to their reaction to the flu shot. Was it the same or did you have a reaction to one and not the other? On 3/31/2021 21:01:03, Rick Womer wrote: > Second jab is rough. The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your > still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good! > > I had the same symptoms without the fever after jab 2. They’re very common, > particularly in younger folks than you. > > Rick > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 17:34 ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > >> I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day >> misery.. didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and >> chills overnight wasn't much fun and >> the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not >> quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now. >> >> anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide - >> certainly got a lot on FB >> >> It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up >> without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance >> >> ann >> >> -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
J
John
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 2:16 AM

I've seen a couple of different reports on the AZ vaccine. One suggesting the
risk of clots is linked to low blood platelet counts so recipients should have a
CBC/FBC blood test before receiving the AZ vaccine.

I saw another report suggesting maybe not using the AZ vaccine for those under
45 years of age.

I didn't look too closely at them because I'm older than that & because I'd
already had the two Pfizer shots before I saw those news reports.

But it seems like the AZ vaccine is "safe" if care is taken in which patients
it's administered to.

On 4/1/2021 09:57:45, Bill wrote:

On 4/1/2021 7:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

16 weeks?  should be closer to 2 to 5 weeks..  perhaps you misread?? glad you
are getting the first one soon.

Nope, it will be several months between shots up here because they want to get
first shots to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I'm OK with
this, what with living in the North American hot spot at the moment.

I'm not sure where I'll be at, as the powers that be seem insistent on pulling
the AZ vaccine off the market.

bill

ann

On 4/1/2021 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Glad your better now Ann. Getting my first jab april 5th and second jabs
are supposed to be around 16 weeks after first one up here so i'll see. Not
sure what we will get but i hear the mass vaxx sites are using Pfizer of
Moderna

Dave

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I've seen a couple of different reports on the AZ vaccine. One suggesting the risk of clots is linked to low blood platelet counts so recipients should have a CBC/FBC blood test before receiving the AZ vaccine. I saw another report suggesting maybe not using the AZ vaccine for those under 45 years of age. I didn't look too closely at them because I'm older than that & because I'd already had the two Pfizer shots before I saw those news reports. But it seems like the AZ vaccine is "safe" if care is taken in which patients it's administered to. On 4/1/2021 09:57:45, Bill wrote: > On 4/1/2021 7:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> 16 weeks?  should be closer to 2 to 5 weeks..  perhaps you misread?? glad you >> are getting the first one soon. > > Nope, it will be several months between shots up here because they want to get > first shots to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I'm OK with > this, what with living in the North American hot spot at the moment. > > I'm not sure where I'll be at, as the powers that be seem insistent on pulling > the AZ vaccine off the market. > > bill > > >> >> ann >> >> On 4/1/2021 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >>> Glad your better now Ann. Getting my first jab april 5th and second jabs >>> are supposed to be around 16 weeks after first one up here so i'll see. Not >>> sure what we will get but i hear the mass vaxx sites are using Pfizer of >>> Moderna >>> >>> Dave > -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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Toine
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 10:29 AM

In the Netherlands they halted AZ shots for everyone except 60-64 by
the GP. That's my group and the AZ shot was promised from February
1st. No date yet. Given all the bad news about AZ I would much prefer
one of the others. Absolutely no way to get any (other) brand unless
endorsed by the bureaucrats. Unused (prepared) shots are dumped in the
bin because rules are rules.  I heard you can get one in Bulgaria.
Feels like living behind the iron curtain or inside a Monty Python sketch...
I wonder what happens if I refuse the AZ shot. Probably nothing and
the only option left is hoping I'll survive the real infection.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 04:16, John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

I've seen a couple of different reports on the AZ vaccine. One suggesting the
risk of clots is linked to low blood platelet counts so recipients should have a
CBC/FBC blood test before receiving the AZ vaccine.

I saw another report suggesting maybe not using the AZ vaccine for those under
45 years of age.

I didn't look too closely at them because I'm older than that & because I'd
already had the two Pfizer shots before I saw those news reports.

But it seems like the AZ vaccine is "safe" if care is taken in which patients
it's administered to.

On 4/1/2021 09:57:45, Bill wrote:

On 4/1/2021 7:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

16 weeks?  should be closer to 2 to 5 weeks..  perhaps you misread?? glad you
are getting the first one soon.

Nope, it will be several months between shots up here because they want to get
first shots to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I'm OK with
this, what with living in the North American hot spot at the moment.

I'm not sure where I'll be at, as the powers that be seem insistent on pulling
the AZ vaccine off the market.

bill

ann

On 4/1/2021 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Glad your better now Ann. Getting my first jab april 5th and second jabs
are supposed to be around 16 weeks after first one up here so i'll see. Not
sure what we will get but i hear the mass vaxx sites are using Pfizer of
Moderna

Dave
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In the Netherlands they halted AZ shots for everyone except 60-64 by the GP. That's my group and the AZ shot was promised from February 1st. No date yet. Given all the bad news about AZ I would much prefer one of the others. Absolutely no way to get any (other) brand unless endorsed by the bureaucrats. Unused (prepared) shots are dumped in the bin because rules are rules. I heard you can get one in Bulgaria. Feels like living behind the iron curtain or inside a Monty Python sketch... I wonder what happens if I refuse the AZ shot. Probably nothing and the only option left is hoping I'll survive the real infection. On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 04:16, John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > I've seen a couple of different reports on the AZ vaccine. One suggesting the > risk of clots is linked to low blood platelet counts so recipients should have a > CBC/FBC blood test before receiving the AZ vaccine. > > I saw another report suggesting maybe not using the AZ vaccine for those under > 45 years of age. > > I didn't look too closely at them because I'm older than that & because I'd > already had the two Pfizer shots before I saw those news reports. > > But it seems like the AZ vaccine is "safe" if care is taken in which patients > it's administered to. > > > On 4/1/2021 09:57:45, Bill wrote: > > On 4/1/2021 7:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > >> 16 weeks? should be closer to 2 to 5 weeks.. perhaps you misread?? glad you > >> are getting the first one soon. > > > > Nope, it will be several months between shots up here because they want to get > > first shots to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I'm OK with > > this, what with living in the North American hot spot at the moment. > > > > I'm not sure where I'll be at, as the powers that be seem insistent on pulling > > the AZ vaccine off the market. > > > > bill > > > > > >> > >> ann > >> > >> On 4/1/2021 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > >>> Glad your better now Ann. Getting my first jab april 5th and second jabs > >>> are supposed to be around 16 weeks after first one up here so i'll see. Not > >>> sure what we will get but i hear the mass vaxx sites are using Pfizer of > >>> Moderna > >>> > >>> Dave > > -- > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ralf R Radermacher
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 4:27 PM

Am 02.04.21 um 22:30 schrieb Juan Buhler:

Glad y'all are getting shots!

Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday. Comes a bit sudden
and unexpected but Michael insisted I try once more to get through on
this chronically overloaded online system they're using here to make
those dates and well... bingo...

Won't be sleeping well the next nights, as my relation to doctors of all
kinds can best be compared to that of the devil to holy water or
vampires to garlic. Plus we're snowed under with work and I can't afford
to spend days with chills and fever.

Oh, and it'll be ZA. So much for a relaxed Easter sunday.

Ralf

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Am 02.04.21 um 22:30 schrieb Juan Buhler: > Glad y'all are getting shots! Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday. Comes a bit sudden and unexpected but Michael insisted I try once more to get through on this chronically overloaded online system they're using here to make those dates and well... bingo... Won't be sleeping well the next nights, as my relation to doctors of all kinds can best be compared to that of the devil to holy water or vampires to garlic. Plus we're snowed under with work and I can't afford to spend days with chills and fever. Oh, and it'll be ZA. So much for a relaxed Easter sunday. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Ralf R Radermacher
Thu, Apr 8, 2021 12:17 PM

Silly old me wrote:

Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday.

So, today's been the day. All went fine. If only they hadn't turned the
hall into a succession of maize mazes to accomodate a queue that  wasn't
there and which made all ways about 5 times as long as they should have
been. My back hates standing.

No side effects so far. No chill, no fever. We'll see. Fingers crossed.
Back to work.

Ralf

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Silly old me wrote: > Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday. So, today's been the day. All went fine. If only they hadn't turned the hall into a succession of maize mazes to accomodate a queue that wasn't there and which made all ways about 5 times as long as they should have been. My back hates standing. No side effects so far. No chill, no fever. We'll see. Fingers crossed. Back to work. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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ann sanfedele
Thu, Apr 8, 2021 1:26 PM

Which one did you get? the second jab is the fever and chill time  but
from all accounts men have had fewer problems than we gals.
first shot even for me was jsut minorly sore arm , headache and extra
sleepiness.  But second shot was annoyingly painful and I did get the
fever and chills
Only for a day or two.. ultimately not bad.

HOpe you have it easy - the maize sounds awful  - My legs hate standing...

ann

On 4/8/2021 8:17 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Silly old me wrote:

Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday.

So, today's been the day. All went fine. If only they hadn't turned the
hall into a succession of maize mazes to accomodate a queue that wasn't
there and which made all ways about 5 times as long as they should have
been. My back hates standing.

No side effects so far. No chill, no fever. We'll see. Fingers crossed.
Back to work.

Ralf

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Which one did you get? the second jab is the fever and chill time  but from all accounts men have had fewer problems than we gals. first shot even for me was jsut minorly sore arm , headache and extra sleepiness.  But second shot was annoyingly painful and I did get the fever and chills Only for a day or two.. ultimately not bad. HOpe you have it easy - the maize sounds awful  - My legs hate standing... ann On 4/8/2021 8:17 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Silly old me wrote: > >> Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday. > > So, today's been the day. All went fine. If only they hadn't turned the > hall into a succession of maize mazes to accomodate a queue that wasn't > there and which made all ways about 5 times as long as they should have > been. My back hates standing. > > No side effects so far. No chill, no fever. We'll see. Fingers crossed. > Back to work. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
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Ralf R Radermacher
Thu, Apr 8, 2021 2:01 PM

Am 08.04.21 um 15:26 schrieb ann sanfedele:

Which one did you get?

Astra Zeneca. They got loads of that now and us over 60s could apply to
be vaccined well ahead of our planned time. I wasn't exactly
enthousiastic but Michael gently nudged me (at least that's what he
calls it).

the second jab is the fever and chill time

Nananananaaanaaa... pluggingmyears

HOpe you have it easy - the maize sounds awful  - My legs hate standing...

They had enormous queues on the first two days and people were even
standing outside in the street for half a mile. Wouldn't have made it
under those conditions.

I'd much prefer the American drive-through system, but we're meant to
walk and cycle everywhere.

Well, what's done is done and let's hope for the best.

Ralf

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Am 08.04.21 um 15:26 schrieb ann sanfedele: > Which one did you get? Astra Zeneca. They got loads of that now and us over 60s could apply to be vaccined well ahead of our planned time. I wasn't exactly enthousiastic but Michael gently nudged me (at least that's what he calls it). > the second jab is the fever and chill time Nananananaaanaaa... *pluggingmyears* > HOpe you have it easy - the maize sounds awful  - My legs hate standing... They had enormous queues on the first two days and people were even standing outside in the street for half a mile. Wouldn't have made it under those conditions. I'd much prefer the American drive-through system, but we're meant to walk and cycle everywhere. Well, what's done is done and let's hope for the best. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Steve Cottrell
Thu, Apr 8, 2021 2:11 PM

On 8/4/21, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

Astra Zeneca. They got loads of that now and us over 60s could apply to
be vaccined well ahead of our planned time. I wasn't exactly
enthousiastic but Michael gently nudged me (at least that's what he
calls it).

I've had my first AZ and felt fine for the first 12 hours or so - then had fluey feeling, inc an hour of chills, then slept and in the morning was okay, fine later that day. No arm pain at all.

The incidence of fatal blood clotting is approx 1 in a million. The incidence of blood clotting from taking the birth control pill (say) is 1 in 1000. Too low to be worried about it.

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On 8/4/21, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >Astra Zeneca. They got loads of that now and us over 60s could apply to >be vaccined well ahead of our planned time. I wasn't exactly >enthousiastic but Michael gently nudged me (at least that's what he >calls it). I've had my first AZ and felt fine for the first 12 hours or so - then had fluey feeling, inc an hour of chills, then slept and in the morning was okay, fine later that day. No arm pain at all. The incidence of fatal blood clotting is approx 1 in a million. The incidence of blood clotting from taking the birth control pill (say) is 1 in 1000. Too low to be worried about it. -- Cheers Cotty
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Ralf R Radermacher
Thu, Apr 8, 2021 2:23 PM

Am 08.04.21 um 16:11 schrieb Steve Cottrell:

I've had my first AZ and felt fine for the first 12 hours or so - then had fluey feeling, inc an hour of chills, then slept and in the morning was okay, fine later that day.

So it may have been a good idea to have done everything today that was
originally scheduled for tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.

Ralf

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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Am 08.04.21 um 16:11 schrieb Steve Cottrell: > I've had my first AZ and felt fine for the first 12 hours or so - then had fluey feeling, inc an hour of chills, then slept and in the morning was okay, fine later that day. So it may have been a good idea to have done everything today that was originally scheduled for tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de