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Bob W PDML
Wed, Jul 26, 2023 8:04 PM
Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world.
This is rather a caricature. Storing it in the cloud does not mean sharing it with the world.
Storing things in the cloud is a perfectly reasonable off-site backup. And since it’s so easy and convenient to have everything available from each device, instead of being the backup it’s perfectly reasonable for it to be the primary storage, and for people to use something like LR Classic’s device storage as the backup in case Adobe’s one, never-backed-up, wobbly old PC has a head crash (I can do caricatures too!).
LR Mobile caches everything locally before it tries to sync it to the cloud, so if you have no internet connection, or a slow or wobbly one, you’re not losing anything and it will trickle-feed it as and when it can.
If I were travelling somewhere very, very remote for any length of time I’d back the SD cards up to a separate storage device, and keep the images on the SD cards, as well as importing them into LR Mobile. I’ve never needed this sort of belt & braces approach in Europe.
The downside of the mobile version, to me, is that it doesn’t have some of the useful functionality of the classic version, but it’s functionality I don’t usually need when I’m travelling.
On 26 Jul 2023, at 20:36, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
I use a MacBook Pro, at home and when traveling. I use Lightroom Classic. I seldom need or intentionally use Adobe’s cloud synch features.
On my upcoming trip I will try using LR Mobile on my iPad (and leave my laptop home) and so there are some aspects of that app that will not work if it is not actively on the net. But mostly I will have internet access turned off.
The LR Mobile approach to synching, and most of Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world. I like the functionality of LR Classic and am grateful that they retained this alternative to the Cloud-based apps.
Back when I had both a desktop Mac and my laptop, I did have LR Classic on both machines and never had an issue unless I tried to have both running at the same time.
Stan
On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I have Lightroom Classic running on this here Mac mini, with my photos on external hard drives.
We’re going to be doing some traveling, and I’d like to have LR on my MacBook Pro. There is loads of room on its internal drive.
What flavor of LR should I install on my laptop that won’t insist on using the cloud? Will Adobe allow me to download another copy of LrC?
Their website is completely un-helpful, alas.
Rick
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> Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world.
This is rather a caricature. Storing it in the cloud does not mean sharing it with the world.
Storing things in the cloud is a perfectly reasonable off-site backup. And since it’s so easy and convenient to have everything available from each device, instead of being the backup it’s perfectly reasonable for it to be the primary storage, and for people to use something like LR Classic’s device storage as the backup in case Adobe’s one, never-backed-up, wobbly old PC has a head crash (I can do caricatures too!).
LR Mobile caches everything locally before it tries to sync it to the cloud, so if you have no internet connection, or a slow or wobbly one, you’re not losing anything and it will trickle-feed it as and when it can.
If I were travelling somewhere very, very remote for any length of time I’d back the SD cards up to a separate storage device, and keep the images on the SD cards, as well as importing them into LR Mobile. I’ve never needed this sort of belt & braces approach in Europe.
The downside of the mobile version, to me, is that it doesn’t have some of the useful functionality of the classic version, but it’s functionality I don’t usually need when I’m travelling.
> On 26 Jul 2023, at 20:36, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>
> I use a MacBook Pro, at home and when traveling. I use Lightroom Classic. I seldom need or intentionally use Adobe’s cloud synch features.
> On my upcoming trip I will try using LR Mobile on my iPad (and leave my laptop home) and so there are some aspects of that app that will not work if it is not actively on the net. But mostly I will have internet access turned off.
>
> The LR Mobile approach to synching, and most of Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world. I like the functionality of LR Classic and am grateful that they retained this alternative to the Cloud-based apps.
>
> Back when I had both a desktop Mac and my laptop, I did have LR Classic on both machines and never had an issue unless I tried to have both running at the same time.
>
> Stan
>
>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have Lightroom Classic running on this here Mac mini, with my photos on external hard drives.
>> We’re going to be doing some traveling, and I’d like to have LR on my MacBook Pro. There is loads of room on its internal drive.
>> What flavor of LR should I install on my laptop that won’t insist on using the cloud? Will Adobe allow me to download another copy of LrC?
>> Their website is completely un-helpful, alas.
>> Rick
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Stanley Halpin
Wed, Jul 26, 2023 9:20 PM
What I have run into is the following:
- Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
- Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
- Select/edit 3-4 images.
- Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
- LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world.
This is rather a caricature. Storing it in the cloud does not mean sharing it with the world.
Storing things in the cloud is a perfectly reasonable off-site backup. And since it’s so easy and convenient to have everything available from each device, instead of being the backup it’s perfectly reasonable for it to be the primary storage, and for people to use something like LR Classic’s device storage as the backup in case Adobe’s one, never-backed-up, wobbly old PC has a head crash (I can do caricatures too!).
LR Mobile caches everything locally before it tries to sync it to the cloud, so if you have no internet connection, or a slow or wobbly one, you’re not losing anything and it will trickle-feed it as and when it can.
If I were travelling somewhere very, very remote for any length of time I’d back the SD cards up to a separate storage device, and keep the images on the SD cards, as well as importing them into LR Mobile. I’ve never needed this sort of belt & braces approach in Europe.
The downside of the mobile version, to me, is that it doesn’t have some of the useful functionality of the classic version, but it’s functionality I don’t usually need when I’m travelling.
On 26 Jul 2023, at 20:36, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
I use a MacBook Pro, at home and when traveling. I use Lightroom Classic. I seldom need or intentionally use Adobe’s cloud synch features.
On my upcoming trip I will try using LR Mobile on my iPad (and leave my laptop home) and so there are some aspects of that app that will not work if it is not actively on the net. But mostly I will have internet access turned off.
The LR Mobile approach to synching, and most of Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world. I like the functionality of LR Classic and am grateful that they retained this alternative to the Cloud-based apps.
Back when I had both a desktop Mac and my laptop, I did have LR Classic on both machines and never had an issue unless I tried to have both running at the same time.
Stan
On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I have Lightroom Classic running on this here Mac mini, with my photos on external hard drives.
We’re going to be doing some traveling, and I’d like to have LR on my MacBook Pro. There is loads of room on its internal drive.
What flavor of LR should I install on my laptop that won’t insist on using the cloud? Will Adobe allow me to download another copy of LrC?
Their website is completely un-helpful, alas.
Rick
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What I have run into is the following:
1. Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
2. Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
3. Select/edit 3-4 images.
4. Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
5. LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
> On Jul 26, 2023, at 4:04 PM, Bob W PDML <pdmlbw@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world.
>
> This is rather a caricature. Storing it in the cloud does not mean sharing it with the world.
>
> Storing things in the cloud is a perfectly reasonable off-site backup. And since it’s so easy and convenient to have everything available from each device, instead of being the backup it’s perfectly reasonable for it to be the primary storage, and for people to use something like LR Classic’s device storage as the backup in case Adobe’s one, never-backed-up, wobbly old PC has a head crash (I can do caricatures too!).
>
> LR Mobile caches everything locally before it tries to sync it to the cloud, so if you have no internet connection, or a slow or wobbly one, you’re not losing anything and it will trickle-feed it as and when it can.
>
> If I were travelling somewhere very, very remote for any length of time I’d back the SD cards up to a separate storage device, and keep the images on the SD cards, as well as importing them into LR Mobile. I’ve never needed this sort of belt & braces approach in Europe.
>
> The downside of the mobile version, to me, is that it doesn’t have some of the useful functionality of the classic version, but it’s functionality I don’t usually need when I’m travelling.
>
>> On 26 Jul 2023, at 20:36, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>>
>> I use a MacBook Pro, at home and when traveling. I use Lightroom Classic. I seldom need or intentionally use Adobe’s cloud synch features.
>> On my upcoming trip I will try using LR Mobile on my iPad (and leave my laptop home) and so there are some aspects of that app that will not work if it is not actively on the net. But mostly I will have internet access turned off.
>>
>> The LR Mobile approach to synching, and most of Adobe’s cloud-based design is apparently based on an audience with a totally different perspective, those who are constantly connected to high-sped internet and who want every image sucked off their devices and stored in Adobe’s Cloud to be shared with the world. I like the functionality of LR Classic and am grateful that they retained this alternative to the Cloud-based apps.
>>
>> Back when I had both a desktop Mac and my laptop, I did have LR Classic on both machines and never had an issue unless I tried to have both running at the same time.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have Lightroom Classic running on this here Mac mini, with my photos on external hard drives.
>>> We’re going to be doing some traveling, and I’d like to have LR on my MacBook Pro. There is loads of room on its internal drive.
>>> What flavor of LR should I install on my laptop that won’t insist on using the cloud? Will Adobe allow me to download another copy of LrC?
>>> Their website is completely un-helpful, alas.
>>> Rick
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 5:28 AM
I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
G
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
What I have run into is the following:
- Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
- Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
- Select/edit 3-4 images.
- Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
- LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
G
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> On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>
> What I have run into is the following:
> 1. Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
> 2. Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
> 3. Select/edit 3-4 images.
> 4. Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
> 5. LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
>
> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
>
> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
>
> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
>
> Stan
>
AC
Alan C
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 6:19 AM
I don't take anything & wait till I get back home!
Alan C
On 27-Jul-23 07:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
G
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Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601
On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
What I have run into is the following:
- Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
- Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
- Select/edit 3-4 images.
- Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
- LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
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I don't take anything & wait till I get back home!
Alan C
On 27-Jul-23 07:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
>
> When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
>
> G
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>
>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>>
>> What I have run into is the following:
>> 1. Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
>> 2. Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
>> 3. Select/edit 3-4 images.
>> 4. Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
>> 5. LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
>>
>> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
>>
>> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
>>
>> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
>>
>> Stan
>>
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Bob W PDML
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 7:26 AM
On 26 Jul 2023, at 22:20, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
[…]
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
Then you can’t use LR CC, simple as that. You’ll need to find something else to edit and render your photos on the move.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
You could make the argument that software developers should support the actual processes that people want to use, and many of them do a lot of ethnographic research to support that. However there’s always going to be a limit to what can be done.
With LR I’ve tried to understand the process they support, and use that, the line of least resistance, rather than try to force it to do things my way. Again, there’s a limit and if software is too different from my approach I don’t use it.
In the case you’ve outlined I’d import everything from the SD card into LR on my phone or iPad and do whatever work I need there. Back at home I’d just let it sync with the classic version on the desktop in the way Adobe designed it rather than try to import into the desktop version from the storage devices and merging as you’ve described.
The second half of this link, which I’ve mangled to try and bypass the PDML’s guard dogs, has an explanation.
< helpx.adobe.com/uk/
lightroom-classic/how-to/sync-photos-lightroom-mobile.html >
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
> On 26 Jul 2023, at 22:20, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>
> […]
> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
Then you can’t use LR CC, simple as that. You’ll need to find something else to edit and render your photos on the move.
>
> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
You could make the argument that software developers should support the actual processes that people want to use, and many of them do a lot of ethnographic research to support that. However there’s always going to be a limit to what can be done.
With LR I’ve tried to understand the process they support, and use that, the line of least resistance, rather than try to force it to do things my way. Again, there’s a limit and if software is too different from my approach I don’t use it.
In the case you’ve outlined I’d import everything from the SD card into LR on my phone or iPad and do whatever work I need there. Back at home I’d just let it sync with the classic version on the desktop in the way Adobe designed it rather than try to import into the desktop version from the storage devices and merging as you’ve described.
The second half of this link, which I’ve mangled to try and bypass the PDML’s guard dogs, has an explanation.
< helpx.adobe.com/uk/
lightroom-classic/how-to/sync-photos-lightroom-mobile.html >
>
> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
>
> Stan
MW
mike wilson
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 9:27 AM
Snap! We're just sooo last millenuim.
On 27/07/2023 07:19 Alan C cole@lantic.net wrote:
I don't take anything & wait till I get back home!
Alan C
On 27-Jul-23 07:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
G
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
What I have run into is the following:
- Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
- Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
- Select/edit 3-4 images.
- Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
- LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
Stan
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> On 27/07/2023 07:19 Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote:
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> I don't take anything & wait till I get back home!
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> Alan C
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> On 27-Jul-23 07:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
> >
> > When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic at home.
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> > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601
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> >> On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
> >>
> >> What I have run into is the following:
> >> 1. Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
> >> 2. Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
> >> 3. Select/edit 3-4 images.
> >> 4. Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
> >> 5. LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” Or words to that effect.
> >>
> >> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
> >>
> >> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
> >>
> >> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
> >>
> >> Stan
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Henk Terhell
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 10:13 AM
Don't forget we have Pentax in our forum name.
Henk
Op do 27 jul 2023 om 11:27 schreef mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com:
Snap! We're just sooo last millenuim.
Don't forget we have Pentax in our forum name.
Henk
Op do 27 jul 2023 om 11:27 schreef mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com>:
> Snap! We're just sooo last millenuim.
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SH
Stanley Halpin
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 9:52 PM
Thanks for the link.
I will be trying the iPad + LR Mobile on this next trip, will run through a few practice sessions beforehand to try to develop confidence in the workflow.
Back story: Over the last 10-20-30 years I have been able to do a lot of travel. Until sorely after retirement in 2010 much of that was in conjunction with business trips.
Over time I have developed strategies for taking/storing/processing images. Many of the strategies depended on having my laptop along. A few trips without, but mostly with. And I have developed a reasonably slim packing list. But larger camera bodies, more lenses, more other devices that need chargers… The laptop has become one item that I need to jettison. Because Canadian trains.
Our travel typically has involved a 2-3 leg flight to somewhere, maybe some local train travel (e.g., Barcelona to Paris), usually some time aboard a cruise ship. Our upcoming trip is somewhat different. A 2-leg flight to Toronto, a few days later we board a train for a 4-day trip to Vancouver British Columbia, and then on from there. The train sleeper compartment is small, minimal luggage allowed, and I am trying to minimize the amount of electronic & camera gear. I can get by with a smallish shoulder bag unless I take the laptop, in which case I need to use my backpack…
I think this is what is sometimes referred to as a “first world problem.”
Somehow I will manage to struggle through. 🤓
Stan
On 26 Jul 2023, at 22:20, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
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I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
Then you can’t use LR CC, simple as that. You’ll need to find something else to edit and render your photos on the move.
I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
Thanks for the link.
I will be trying the iPad + LR Mobile on this next trip, will run through a few practice sessions beforehand to try to develop confidence in the workflow.
Back story: Over the last 10-20-30 years I have been able to do a lot of travel. Until sorely after retirement in 2010 much of that was in conjunction with business trips.
Over time I have developed strategies for taking/storing/processing images. Many of the strategies depended on having my laptop along. A few trips without, but mostly with. And I have developed a reasonably slim packing list. But larger camera bodies, more lenses, more other devices that need chargers… The laptop has become one item that I need to jettison. Because Canadian trains.
Our travel typically has involved a 2-3 leg flight to somewhere, maybe some local train travel (e.g., Barcelona to Paris), usually some time aboard a cruise ship. Our upcoming trip is somewhat different. A 2-leg flight to Toronto, a few days later we board a train for a 4-day trip to Vancouver British Columbia, and then on from there. The train sleeper compartment is small, minimal luggage allowed, and I am trying to minimize the amount of electronic & camera gear. I can get by with a smallish shoulder bag unless I take the laptop, in which case I need to use my backpack…
I think this is what is sometimes referred to as a “first world problem.”
Somehow I will manage to struggle through. 🤓
Stan
> On Jul 27, 2023, at 3:26 AM, Bob W PDML <pdmlbw@icloud.com> wrote:
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>> On 26 Jul 2023, at 22:20, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
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>> […]
>> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
>
> Then you can’t use LR CC, simple as that. You’ll need to find something else to edit and render your photos on the move.
>
>>
>> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, and wound up with a confusing mess.
>
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Steve Cottrell
Sat, Jul 29, 2023 7:41 PM
I did that trip when I was 10 ;-) Canadian Pacific. One one short leg up in the Rockies I got to sit in the cab. I’ll never forget the sight of deer jumping along fresh snow in front of the train. Every so often the engineer would reach into a large coolbox under his seat and pull out a can of distilled water which he would open - all with one hand and in one motion - and gulp down.
I was literally in awe.
Cotty
On 27 Jul 2023, at 22:52, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
a few days later we board a train for a 4-day trip to Vancouver British Columbia, and then on from there.
I did that trip when I was 10 ;-) Canadian Pacific. One one short leg up in the Rockies I got to sit in the cab. I’ll never forget the sight of deer jumping along fresh snow in front of the train. Every so often the engineer would reach into a large coolbox under his seat and pull out a can of distilled water which he would open - all with one hand and in one motion - and gulp down.
I was literally in awe.
Cotty
> On 27 Jul 2023, at 22:52, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>
> a few days later we board a train for a 4-day trip to Vancouver British Columbia, and then on from there.
