I apologize, I simply don't have the time to go through and winnow down the photos further, same band as two weeks ago, at a different venue. The K3-III really does suck at low light focus, but I was still able to get some acceptable shots. If you don't mind scanning through a fair sized gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720323717142 At some point, I'll really need to do a more comprehensive comparison between the FA84/1.4 and the FA77/1.8, I did use both last night. The 85 does seem to handle extremely low light better, at the edges, that extra 2/3 of a stop really does make a difference. __ Larry Colen from Lothlorien lrc@red4est.com