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John
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 4:27 PM

I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

It should be. But the guy with the camera is NOT the one whose stupidity caused
the incident.

I think he should sue the airline, the flight attendants, the pilots, the TSA
and that ASSHOLE BUSYBODY for libel, false imprisonment and general fucktardedness!

On 10/12/2021 12:32:51, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a "vintage"
style camera and human stupidity.

I am quoting this article from PetaPixel:

"The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger
scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the images
of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was looking up
bomb-making instructions.

The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera and
began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a timer on a
bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the pilots decided to
land in Queens.

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/

After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the tarmac.

A bunch of news outlets wrote later:
"Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident Saturday
when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious behavior, prompting
the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia Airport to be deplaned on the
tarmac."

I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was similar
to a Mamia TLR.

It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS (Homeland
Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago:
https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php

Cheers!

Igor

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> I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal. It should be. But the guy with the camera is NOT the one whose stupidity caused the incident. I think he should sue the airline, the flight attendants, the pilots, the TSA and that ASSHOLE BUSYBODY for libel, false imprisonment and general fucktardedness! On 10/12/2021 12:32:51, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the national news. > But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a "vintage" > style camera and human stupidity. > > I am quoting this article from PetaPixel: > > "The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger > scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the images > of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was looking up > bomb-making instructions. > > The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera and > began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a timer on a > bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the pilots decided to > land in Queens. > > https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/ > > > After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the tarmac. > > A bunch of news outlets wrote later: > "Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident Saturday > when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious behavior, prompting > the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia Airport to be deplaned on the > tarmac." > > I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal. > > The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was similar > to a Mamia TLR. > > It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS (Homeland > Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago: > https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php > > Cheers! > > Igor > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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Igor PDML-StR
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 4:32 PM

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the
national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a
"vintage" style camera and human stupidity.

I am quoting this article from PetaPixel:

"The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger
scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the
images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was
looking up bomb-making instructions.

The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera
and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a
timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the
pilots decided to land in Queens.

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/

After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the
tarmac.

A bunch of news outlets wrote later:
"Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident
Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious
behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia
Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac."

I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was
similar to a Mamia TLR.

It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS
(Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago:
https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php

Cheers!

Igor

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the national news. But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a "vintage" style camera and human stupidity. I am quoting this article from PetaPixel: "The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was looking up bomb-making instructions. The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the pilots decided to land in Queens. https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/ After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the tarmac. A bunch of news outlets wrote later: "Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac." I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal. The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was similar to a Mamia TLR. It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS (Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago: https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php Cheers! Igor
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 4:48 PM

"Make them afraid, divide them up, and conquer them."
Same old horse droppings... Old news in another era of fear and instability. And yes: it can affect all of us (and everyone else) directly.

Read "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis ... written in 1935.

G

No matter where you go, others have likely already been.

On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdmlstr@komkon.org wrote:

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a "vintage" style camera and human stupidity.

I am quoting this article from PetaPixel:

"The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was looking up bomb-making instructions.

The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the pilots decided to land in Queens.

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/

After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the tarmac.

A bunch of news outlets wrote later:
"Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac."

I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was similar to a Mamia TLR.

It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS (Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago:
https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php

Cheers!

Igor

"Make them afraid, divide them up, and conquer them." Same old horse droppings... Old news in another era of fear and instability. And yes: it can affect all of us (and everyone else) directly. Read "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis ... written in 1935. G -- No matter where you go, others have likely already been. > On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Igor PDML-StR <pdmlstr@komkon.org> wrote: > > Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the national news. > But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a "vintage" style camera and human stupidity. > > I am quoting this article from PetaPixel: > > "The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was looking up bomb-making instructions. > > The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the pilots decided to land in Queens. > > https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/ > > After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the tarmac. > > A bunch of news outlets wrote later: > "Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac." > > I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal. > > The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was similar to a Mamia TLR. > > It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS (Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago: > https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php > > Cheers! > > Igor >
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Bill
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 5:44 PM

On 10/12/2021 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the
national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a
"vintage" style camera and human stupidity.

I am quoting this article from PetaPixel:

"The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow
passenger scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She
mistook the images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the
passenger was looking up bomb-making instructions.

The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera
and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting
a timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and
the pilots decided to land in Queens.

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/

After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the
tarmac.

A bunch of news outlets wrote later:
"Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident
Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious
behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia
Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac."

I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was
similar to a Mamia TLR.

It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS
(Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago:
https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php

Another Karen to the rescue, it seems.

Like it or not, the level of paranoia is now so high that anything
someone sees as out of the ordinary is suspicious, that anything that
can be taken the wrong way will be taken to the extreme, and the excuse
of "what if it really was something" will be used over and over again to
support the most egregious and over the top reactions to what would have
been viewed as nothing not many years ago.

This is how we lose our freedoms, one Karen at a time, and frankly, this
is how we lose our democracies, one authoritarian over reach at a time.

People will, if their minds are ruled by fear, trade freedom for a
facsimile of safety.

bill

On 10/12/2021 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the > national news. > But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a > "vintage" style camera and human stupidity. > > I am quoting this article from PetaPixel: > > "The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow > passenger scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She > mistook the images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the > passenger was looking up bomb-making instructions. > > The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera > and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting > a timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and > the pilots decided to land in Queens. > > https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/ > > > After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the > tarmac. > > A bunch of news outlets wrote later: > "Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident > Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious > behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia > Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac." > > I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal. > > The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was > similar to a Mamia TLR. > > It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS > (Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago: > https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php > Another Karen to the rescue, it seems. Like it or not, the level of paranoia is now so high that anything someone sees as out of the ordinary is suspicious, that anything that can be taken the wrong way will be taken to the extreme, and the excuse of "what if it really was something" will be used over and over again to support the most egregious and over the top reactions to what would have been viewed as nothing not many years ago. This is how we lose our freedoms, one Karen at a time, and frankly, this is how we lose our democracies, one authoritarian over reach at a time. People will, if their minds are ruled by fear, trade freedom for a facsimile of safety. bill
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Ralf R Radermacher
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 9:49 PM

Am 12.10.21 um 18:32 schrieb Igor PDML-StR:

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the
national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a
"vintage" style camera and human stupidity.

I'm old enough to remember the golden days when a photographer was the
nice guy who took beautiful pictures and people would be flattered when
someone photographed them.

Then, there were the tragic death of an estranged English housewife in
Paris and the terrorist threat, not to forget the Dutroux affair.

Now, everyone with a camera is either a paparrazzo, a pedophile or a
terrorist.

It's just no fun anymore.

Ralf

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Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Am 12.10.21 um 18:32 schrieb Igor PDML-StR: > Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the > national news. > But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a > "vintage" style camera and human stupidity. I'm old enough to remember the golden days when a photographer was the nice guy who took beautiful pictures and people would be flattered when someone photographed them. Then, there were the tragic death of an estranged English housewife in Paris and the terrorist threat, not to forget the Dutroux affair. Now, everyone with a camera is either a paparrazzo, a pedophile or a terrorist. It's just no fun anymore. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Larry Colen
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 10:06 PM

On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Ralf R Radermacher fotoralf@gmx.de wrote:

Now, everyone with a camera is either a paparrazzo, a pedophile or a
terrorist.

You forgot poseur.

It's just no fun anymore.

Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast.

OK, maybe it sucked.

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Larry Colen
lrc@red4est.com

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Ralf R Radermacher <fotoralf@gmx.de> wrote: > > > Now, everyone with a camera is either a paparrazzo, a pedophile or a > terrorist. You forgot poseur. > > It's just no fun anymore. Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast. OK, maybe it sucked. -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com
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Ralf R Radermacher
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 10:49 PM

Am 13.10.21 um 00:06 schrieb Larry Colen:

Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast.

I've been chased by the notoriously authoritarian French police from my
favourite spot in Dunkirk where it's obviously OK to fish (although this
is officially forbiden there), walk your dogs and race your quad but not
to take photographs of the sea and the steel mill.

Add to this the general situation at Calais and Dunkirk where two guys
driving around the harbour in a car with foreign numberplates can ony be
people smugglers and you have a recipe for some real fun with the French
police, military and CRS (their police force for the more robust jobs).

Ralf

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Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Am 13.10.21 um 00:06 schrieb Larry Colen: > Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast. I've been chased by the notoriously authoritarian French police from my favourite spot in Dunkirk where it's obviously OK to fish (although this is officially forbiden there), walk your dogs and race your quad but not to take photographs of the sea and the steel mill. Add to this the general situation at Calais and Dunkirk where two guys driving around the harbour in a car with foreign numberplates can ony be people smugglers and you have a recipe for some real fun with the French police, military and CRS (their police force for the more robust jobs). Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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Bill
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 10:59 PM

On Tue., Oct. 12, 2021, 4:49 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, fotoralf@gmx.de
wrote:

Am 13.10.21 um 00:06 schrieb Larry Colen:

Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because

someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast.

I've been chased by the notoriously authoritarian French police from my
favourite spot in Dunkirk where it's obviously OK to fish (although this
is officially forbiden there), walk your dogs and race your quad but not
to take photographs of the sea and the steel mill.

That's great theater. It's not like as if someone with bad intent will be
using anything bigger than a cell phone, if he's bothering.

Add to this the general situation at Calais and Dunkirk where two guys
driving around the harbour in a car with foreign numberplates can ony be
people smugglers and you have a recipe for some real fun with the French
police, military and CRS (their police force for the more robust jobs).

When the good guys become the bad guys, the bad guys have done what they
set out to do.

bill

On Tue., Oct. 12, 2021, 4:49 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, <fotoralf@gmx.de> wrote: > Am 13.10.21 um 00:06 schrieb Larry Colen: > > > Speak for yourself, having cops pull guns on me and cuff me because > someone saw me photographing airplanes with my bushhawk was a blast. > > I've been chased by the notoriously authoritarian French police from my > favourite spot in Dunkirk where it's obviously OK to fish (although this > is officially forbiden there), walk your dogs and race your quad but not > to take photographs of the sea and the steel mill. That's great theater. It's not like as if someone with bad intent will be using anything bigger than a cell phone, if he's bothering. > Add to this the general situation at Calais and Dunkirk where two guys > driving around the harbour in a car with foreign numberplates can ony be > people smugglers and you have a recipe for some real fun with the French > police, military and CRS (their police force for the more robust jobs). > When the good guys become the bad guys, the bad guys have done what they set out to do. bill >