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Ken Waller
Mon, Sep 5, 2022 2:51 PM

I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue.

HTH

Ken Waller
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Subject: Re: SD woes

Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey.

I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot.

Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely.

It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!)

G

Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com

On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Progress so far:

  • Tested all 4 SD cards.

One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable.

I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&H.

Rick

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I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue. HTH Ken Waller -----Original Message----- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM To: PDML <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: SD woes Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey. I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot. Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely. It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!) G &mdash; Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com > On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Progress so far: > > - Tested all 4 SD cards. > > One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable. > > I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&amp;H. > > Rick -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rick Womer
Thu, Oct 13, 2022 4:28 PM

Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”?

Rick

On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:

I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue.

HTH

Ken Waller
-----Original Message-----
From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD woes

Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey.

I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot.

Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely.

It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!)

G

Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com

On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Progress so far:

  • Tested all 4 SD cards.

One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable.

I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&H.

Rick

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Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”? Rick > On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller <kwaller@peoplepc.com> wrote: > > I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue. > > > HTH > > Ken Waller > -----Original Message----- > From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM > To: PDML <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: SD woes > > Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey. > > I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot. > > Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely. > > It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!) > > G > &mdash; > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com > >> On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> Progress so far: >> >> - Tested all 4 SD cards. >> >> One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable. >> >> I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&amp;H. >> >> Rick > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sat, Oct 15, 2022 2:46 PM

Hmm. I thought I responded on this topic yesterday. Don't see it posted today… ??

— re-post —

"Delete (All) Photos" simply erases the image file entries in the card volume's table of contents, it doesn't actually erase the files. Over time, cruft can accumulate in the ToC due to other operations of the camera's firmware.

"Format" erases the ToC, erases the entire volume, and reinitializes/creates a new, clean ToC. It can also (depending upon implementation) map bad blocks or sectors out so that read and write operations remain reliable. Of course, in doing so, it also erases any other kinds of file entries in the ToC—essentially giving you a new, blank slate to work with afresh.

G

On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”?

Rick

On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:

I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue.

HTH

Ken Waller
-----Original Message-----
From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD woes

Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey.

I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot.

Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely.

It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!)

G

Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com

On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Progress so far:

  • Tested all 4 SD cards.

One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable.

I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&H.

Rick

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Hmm. I thought I responded on this topic yesterday. Don't see it posted today… ?? — re-post — "Delete (All) Photos" simply erases the image file entries in the card volume's table of contents, it doesn't actually erase the files. Over time, cruft can accumulate in the ToC due to other operations of the camera's firmware. "Format" erases the ToC, erases the entire volume, and reinitializes/creates a new, clean ToC. It can also (depending upon implementation) map bad blocks or sectors out so that read and write operations remain reliable. Of course, in doing so, it also erases any other kinds of file entries in the ToC—essentially giving you a new, blank slate to work with afresh. G > On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”? > > Rick > >> On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller <kwaller@peoplepc.com> wrote: >> >> I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue. >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ken Waller >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >> Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM >> To: PDML <pdml@pdml.net> >> Subject: Re: SD woes >> >> Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey. >> >> I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot. >> >> Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely. >> >> It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!) >> >> G >> &mdash; >> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com >> >>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >>> >>> Progress so far: >>> >>> - Tested all 4 SD cards. >>> >>> One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable. >>> >>> I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&amp;H. >>> >>> Rick >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rick Womer
Sat, Oct 15, 2022 5:43 PM

I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months).

When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen:

“Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or turning it off.”

However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off.

Its older sibling has never given me such a message.

Ideas?

Rick

On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

Hmm. I thought I responded on this topic yesterday. Don't see it posted today… ??

— re-post —

"Delete (All) Photos" simply erases the image file entries in the card volume's table of contents, it doesn't actually erase the files. Over time, cruft can accumulate in the ToC due to other operations of the camera's firmware.

"Format" erases the ToC, erases the entire volume, and reinitializes/creates a new, clean ToC. It can also (depending upon implementation) map bad blocks or sectors out so that read and write operations remain reliable. Of course, in doing so, it also erases any other kinds of file entries in the ToC—essentially giving you a new, blank slate to work with afresh.

G

On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”?

Rick

On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:

I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue.

HTH

Ken Waller
-----Original Message-----
From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD woes

Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey.

I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot.

Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely.

It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!)

G

Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com

On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Progress so far:

  • Tested all 4 SD cards.

One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable.

I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&H.

Rick

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I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months). When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen: “Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or turning it off.” However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off. Its older sibling has never given me such a message. Ideas? Rick > On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > > Hmm. I thought I responded on this topic yesterday. Don't see it posted today… ?? > > — re-post — > > "Delete (All) Photos" simply erases the image file entries in the card volume's table of contents, it doesn't actually erase the files. Over time, cruft can accumulate in the ToC due to other operations of the camera's firmware. > > "Format" erases the ToC, erases the entire volume, and reinitializes/creates a new, clean ToC. It can also (depending upon implementation) map bad blocks or sectors out so that read and write operations remain reliable. Of course, in doing so, it also erases any other kinds of file entries in the ToC—essentially giving you a new, blank slate to work with afresh. > > G > >> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ken, what is the advantage of “format” over “delete all photos”? >> >> Rick >> >>> On Sep 5, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Ken Waller <kwaller@peoplepc.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've used the in camera format function to delete images on an SD card and have never had an issue. >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ken Waller >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>> Sent: Sep 4, 2022 10:46 PM >>> To: PDML <pdml@pdml.net> >>> Subject: Re: SD woes >>> >>> Curiosity: How old is the camera you're using? How much use does it get? The SD card cages in the camera do wear, over time, as do the SD cards themselves, such that the card can get loose or the contacts become a little flakey. >>> >>> I've had this happen on only one of my cameras over the past 20 years, and only had one or two SD cards fail on me, but a lot depends on exactly how a particular camera and card are handled. That particular camera, for me, was purchased used and got used a heckuva lot. >>> >>> Certainly if a card is loose enough in the slot to lose connection when wiggled, or even just a loose fit in the slot, something is happening because the SD cards should fit the card cage fairly precisely. >>> >>> It's a good practice to always mark all cards and batteries used with a camera and use them in ordered rotation with only that camera. That way, as problems develop, you can easily identify which components or cameras are suspect. I do this particularly with batteries, but my cards are all marked too. (I'm now using mostly 64 or 128 G cards and that's so much capacity, for my current shooting practices, that I only rarely even need a second card in my bag!) >>> >>> G >>> &mdash; >>> Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >>>> >>>> Progress so far: >>>> >>>> - Tested all 4 SD cards. >>>> >>>> One occasionally lost its connection to the camera when I wiggled it, and another seemed to fit loosely in the slot and its connection seemed unreliable. >>>> >>>> I threw them away and ordered 4 new cards from B&amp;H. >>>> >>>> Rick >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen
Sat, Oct 15, 2022 6:11 PM

On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months).

When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen:

“Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or turning it off.”

However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off.

Its older sibling has never given me such a message.

Ideas?

The first thing you need to do is isolate the problem. It sounds like a loose or wobbley connection to me.

As I was writing the below it occured to me that a loose power connection is reasonably likely. So maybe check that your power cables are all plugged in well on both sides.

Can you swap the cables going into them?  As in unplug the cables from the drive housings so that the cable that went from USB1 to drive 1 now goes from usb1 to drive 2 and the other cable goes from usb 2 to drive 1.

This way you know whether the problem is with the usb slot or the cable, or it is with the drive or the drive power supply.

Rick

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> On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months). > > When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen: > > “Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or turning it off.” > > However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off. > > Its older sibling has never given me such a message. > > Ideas? The first thing you need to do is isolate the problem. It sounds like a loose or wobbley connection to me. As I was writing the below it occured to me that a loose power connection is reasonably likely. So maybe check that your power cables are all plugged in well on both sides. Can you swap the cables going into them? As in unplug the cables from the drive housings so that the cable that went from USB1 to drive 1 now goes from usb1 to drive 2 and the other cable goes from usb 2 to drive 1. This way you know whether the problem is with the usb slot or the cable, or it is with the drive or the drive power supply. > > Rick -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com. sent from ret4est
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Rick Womer
Sat, Oct 15, 2022 7:54 PM

Larry,

Seems it was a wobbly USB connection. We’ll see…

Thanks!

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 14:11 Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a

couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months).

When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am

greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen:

“Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or

turning it off.”

However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off.

Its older sibling has never given me such a message.

Ideas?

The first thing you need to do is isolate the problem. It sounds like a
loose or wobbley connection to me.

As I was writing the below it occured to me that a loose power connection
is reasonably likely. So maybe check that your power cables are all plugged
in well on both sides.

Can you swap the cables going into them?  As in unplug the cables from the
drive housings so that the cable that went from USB1 to drive 1 now goes
from usb1 to drive 2 and the other cable goes from usb 2 to drive 1.

This way you know whether the problem is with the usb slot or the cable,
or it is with the drive or the drive power supply.

Rick

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Larry, Seems it was a wobbly USB connection. We’ll see… Thanks! On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 14:11 Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > > > On Oct 15, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I have two OWC 8 TB drives connected to my photo computer, one older (a > couple of years) and one newer (a couple of months). > > > > When I step away from the computer for more than a few minutes, I am > greeted with a series of alerts down the right side of my screen: > > > > “Disk Not Ejected Properly. Eject OWC 8TB #2 before disconnecting or > turning it off.” > > > > However, I did not disconnect it or turn it off. > > > > Its older sibling has never given me such a message. > > > > Ideas? > > The first thing you need to do is isolate the problem. It sounds like a > loose or wobbley connection to me. > > As I was writing the below it occured to me that a loose power connection > is reasonably likely. So maybe check that your power cables are all plugged > in well on both sides. > > Can you swap the cables going into them? As in unplug the cables from the > drive housings so that the cable that went from USB1 to drive 1 now goes > from usb1 to drive 2 and the other cable goes from usb 2 to drive 1. > > This way you know whether the problem is with the usb slot or the cable, > or it is with the drive or the drive power supply. > > > > Rick > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com. sent from ret4est > > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.