Alan - look at his eyes.. in many he has a twinkle.  You don't have to show teeth to smile. Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons.. didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-) Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a turn off, IMHO..  a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light will get you farther. ann On 12/2/2021 2:40 AM, Alan C wrote: > Seems to have worked well. You're quite a large customer - the hair > even amplifies that!  I looked in vain for one with a smile. > > Alan C > > On 02-Dec-21 08:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it >> another try tonight. >> >> Oddly, things seem to be mostly working just fine with live view. I >> can see enough on the display to frame myself where I want to be, I >> can see the preview screen and get an idea how things turned out, and >> using my wired remote trigger I can take photos when I want. >> >>> On Dec 1, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Doug Brewer <doug@dougbrewerphoto.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Isn't there a timer on the camera? >> Yeah, that’s how I took the last set: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720168248521 >> >> Warning for the faint of heart, there are a few shirtless ones at the >> end. >> >> Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film era >> camera.  I even have some self portraits I took years ago by sticking >> a mop in a bucket, manually focusing on that, and trying to stand in >> the same place using the self timer. >> >> The point of my complaint was that there are a lot of advantages to >> being able to see what is in the frame.  I don’t know about you >> folks, but when I’m taking photos I don’t aim the camera and shut my >> eyes before pressing the shutter.  At least not often. >> >> However, like I said things were working great tonight, until I >> realized that if I put the camera in single frame mode, I wouldn’t >> get a bunch of second frames with uncharged strobes, and the K-1 >> turned the flash off.  Long story short, in live view, if you put it >> in “motordrive” mode, whatever they call it, they turn off the >> electronic shutter.  Also, something that isn’t well documented, if >> the camera is in electronic shutter mode, it won’t fire a flash.   I >> had to disable electronic shutter to use live view with a flash. >> >> Whoever wrote the K-1 manuals should be soundly beat about the head >> and shoulders with a tiltall tripod.  It should simply say what the >> effects of being in different modes are.  sigh.  They spent too much >> time trying to make the manuals so they don’t scare off morons who >> would be better off just using their phone cameras and don’t tell the >> people who know photography what they need.  But that is a rant for >> another day. >> >> For folks who are curious, I’ll put proofs from tonight here: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720194746983 >> >> I am incapable of critiquing photos of myself, so I post proofs and >> beg friends to tell me which ones suck the least. >> >> >>> On 12/1/21 12:03 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>>> I need some recent portraits, and have made some attempts at >>>> selfies.  It’s extra challenging when you can’t see what the camera >>>> does. >>>> I had the clever idea that I can plug an external monitor into the >>>> HDMI and use that for framing etc. >>>> It *almost* works.  Unfortunately, if I set the camera’s exposure >>>> to use strobes the live view is so dark it won’t auto focus.  Even >>>> when I put it on manual focus, it often refuses to fire the shutter. >>>> Also the screen is so dark, it’s damn near useless for live view. >>>> And there is no way at all to change things so that you can use >>>> live view with a flash. >>>> Sigh. >>>> -- >>>> Larry Colen >>>> lrc@red4est.com >>>> -- >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >>> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> lrc@red4est.com >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks

Larry, what are you going to use the photo for? Applying for a job in an engineering firm and submitting a shot to a bodybuilding magazine (for example) have different requirements. Rick > On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:01 AM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > > >> On Dec 1, 2021, at 11:40 PM, Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote: >> >> Seems to have worked well. You're quite a large customer - > > I have lost a few pounds cycling regularly during the apocalypse, so I could have been larger. > >> the hair even amplifies that! I looked in vain for one with a smile. > > Unfortunately, when I try to force a smile it looks like I am fighting a near terminal case of gas. > > Also, almost a year ago I lost a tooth that was damaged when I was in high school, and I’m still a month or two out from finishing with the implant. > > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 07:14:06AM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons.. > didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-) > > Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a turn > off, IMHO..? a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light > will get you farther. > > ann I have to agree with Ann. These shots all say "Look at me! I'm posing!". In particular, the upward tilt of the head seems to be looking over the head of the viewer, rather than looking directly into the camera.

Friendly critique: You have the camera set too low. It's pointing at your chest, so the viewer gets a good look up your nose and an uncomfortable feeling that you're leaning back. I think I understand you're trying to avoid the double chin look, but that can be done other ways. There could be a little too much paying attention to what the camera is doing and too little concentration on being the subject. Set up the frame, then get in it and go. Let the camera do its thing. 1. Put something in there to focus on, like the previously mentioned mop. Focus on it, then turn off the AF and remove the object. Might want to mark the floor. 2. Set the timer. 3. Hit your mark. 4. Check result. 5. Rinse and repeat. One frame at a time. Shoot loose with enough DOF to get in focus if you miss your spot a little. Crop to satisfaction. None of this requires live view. On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it another try tonight. > > Oddly, things seem to be mostly working just fine with live view. I can see enough on the display to frame myself where I want to be, I can see the preview screen and get an idea how things turned out, and using my wired remote trigger I can take photos when I want. > >> On Dec 1, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Doug Brewer <doug@dougbrewerphoto.com> wrote: >> >> Isn't there a timer on the camera? > > Yeah, that’s how I took the last set: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720168248521 > > Warning for the faint of heart, there are a few shirtless ones at the end. > > Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film era camera. I even have some self portraits I took years ago by sticking a mop in a bucket, manually focusing on that, and trying to stand in the same place using the self timer. > > The point of my complaint was that there are a lot of advantages to being able to see what is in the frame. I don’t know about you folks, but when I’m taking photos I don’t aim the camera and shut my eyes before pressing the shutter. At least not often. > > However, like I said things were working great tonight, until I realized that if I put the camera in single frame mode, I wouldn’t get a bunch of second frames with uncharged strobes, and the K-1 turned the flash off. Long story short, in live view, if you put it in “motordrive” mode, whatever they call it, they turn off the electronic shutter. Also, something that isn’t well documented, if the camera is in electronic shutter mode, it won’t fire a flash. I had to disable electronic shutter to use live view with a flash. > > Whoever wrote the K-1 manuals should be soundly beat about the head and shoulders with a tiltall tripod. It should simply say what the effects of being in different modes are. sigh. They spent too much time trying to make the manuals so they don’t scare off morons who would be better off just using their phone cameras and don’t tell the people who know photography what they need. But that is a rant for another day. > > For folks who are curious, I’ll put proofs from tonight here: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720194746983 > > I am incapable of critiquing photos of myself, so I post proofs and beg friends to tell me which ones suck the least. > > >>

Rick, I’m not so much shooting for one particular need, I just don’t have any good recent photos. I did want to get some photos of my full beard before I trimmed it back to what it is now. I also don’t have any decent photos of myself with long hair. I haven’t had long hair since 2004. I don’t know how much longer I’ll keep it. But mostly, I realized I don’t have any decent photos from the past several years so I wanted to get some current ones for whatever Ann, > On Dec 2, 2021, at 4:14 AM, ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > Alan - look at his eyes.. in many he has a twinkle. You don't have to show teeth to smile. And until I get my implant I’m not so inclined to share pictures of my teeth. > > Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons.. didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-) Certainly not match.com. > > Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a turn off, IMHO.. a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light > will get you farther. I certainly don’t lead with the body shots. With the surplus of resolution available when I can’t see what is actually in the frame, I was shooting extra loose knowing that I can crop in on just the face and still have plenty of pixels to play with. John, Let’s just say that no matter what one might think of my photography these photos are evidence of why I spend the vast majority of my time behind the camera rather than in front of it. -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com

Larry -- must correct one impression you have about my suggestion earlier.. > > On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it >> another try tonight. >> >> ***Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film >> era camera.*** I was actually telling you how I did it with my K-5 mounted on a tripod..  although back in the day I did do a number of casual self portraits with the LX and, of course, a passport photo. ann > - > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks

On December 2, 2021 4:59:32 PM PST, ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote: >Larry -- >must correct one impression you have about my suggestion earlier.. >> >> On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it >>> another try tonight. >>> >>> ***Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film >>> era camera.*** >I was actually telling you how I did it with my K-5 mounted on a >tripod..  although back in the day I did >do a number of casual self portraits with the LX and, of course, a >passport photo. :-) I didn't say you used film, bit that is how you would do it, and I have done it, using a film camera. > >ann > > > > >> - >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.