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mike wilson
Fri, Oct 11, 2024 3:54 PM

Sadly, you need to convert those figures to sterling and add quite a bit to obtain an equivalent here.  And you hit SPAM as well.

On 02/10/2024 01:10 BST Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

I don't know what a "normal video connection is".

A new Mac mini cpu configured with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD drive and delivered with Logic Pro installed is approx $1200. It has an HDMI port to drive video output, so any display with an HDMI input is usable, and any keyboard/mouse/trackpad input device with Bluetooth, USB-A, or USB-C/Thunderbolt outputs will be useable.

I would spend the extra couple hundred $ and go with 1TB SSD because sound and video manipulations generally consume a lot of disk space. External drives for extended storage with USB-C connection are best, and are reasonably inexpensive for capacities of 4 to 6 TB.

Apple systems are generally supported for about 5-6 years of macOS revisions, so that gives your daughter a computer she can rely upon for an entire University degree program, rather than buying an old system that will go out of date and not be upgradable to the next revision of the apps/macOS she needs.

(This is pretty much precisely what my partner and I gifted our niece with over the Summer because she is starting her University degree program as well. We went with a MacBook Air laptop, though, because she needed/wanted mobility use, which added a bit to the cost. Call it $1900, and that of course includes the display and keyboard in the unit rather than having to purchase them separately. She'll use it for the entirety of her degree program, so $500 per year if it was then just tossed into the garbage (which it won't be), so that's really not a lot for an essential part of a modern student's annual University budget.)

G

On Oct 1, 2024, at 7:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:

My daughter is just starting uni and "needs" some form of Apple computer to run the software (Logic) she will be using.  Needs at least OS13.5, apparently.

After wailing and gnashing my teeth for some time because of the utterly ridiculous pricing structure, I am having to work out a way to make this happen.  So, bearing in mind that I am looking primarily at an Apple Mac mini MMFJ3B/A, some questions:

Will this cope?  Fairly sure she will have to use some form of external drive for storage.

Does Apple use normal video connections, such that I can attach a non-Apple monitor?

Will any bluetooth keyboard/mouse work - can I use a cabled one?

Many thanks in anticipation.
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Sadly, you need to convert those figures to sterling and add quite a bit to obtain an equivalent here. And you hit SPAM as well. > On 02/10/2024 01:10 BST Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: > > > I don't know what a "normal video connection is". > > A new Mac mini cpu configured with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD drive and delivered with Logic Pro installed is approx $1200. It has an HDMI port to drive video output, so any display with an HDMI input is usable, and any keyboard/mouse/trackpad input device with Bluetooth, USB-A, or USB-C/Thunderbolt outputs will be useable. > > I would spend the extra couple hundred $ and go with 1TB SSD because sound and video manipulations generally consume a lot of disk space. External drives for extended storage with USB-C connection are best, and are reasonably inexpensive for capacities of 4 to 6 TB. > > Apple systems are generally supported for about 5-6 years of macOS revisions, so that gives your daughter a computer she can rely upon for an entire University degree program, rather than buying an old system that will go out of date and not be upgradable to the next revision of the apps/macOS she needs. > > (This is pretty much precisely what my partner and I gifted our niece with over the Summer because she is starting her University degree program as well. We went with a MacBook Air laptop, though, because she needed/wanted mobility use, which added a bit to the cost. Call it $1900, and that of course includes the display and keyboard in the unit rather than having to purchase them separately. She'll use it for the entirety of her degree program, so $500 per year if it was then just tossed into the garbage (which it won't be), so that's really not a lot for an essential part of a modern student's annual University budget.) > > G > > > On Oct 1, 2024, at 7:31 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > My daughter is just starting uni and "needs" some form of Apple computer to run the software (Logic) she will be using. Needs at least OS13.5, apparently. > > > > After wailing and gnashing my teeth for some time because of the utterly ridiculous pricing structure, I am having to work out a way to make this happen. So, bearing in mind that I am looking primarily at an Apple Mac mini MMFJ3B/A, some questions: > > > > Will this cope? Fairly sure she will have to use some form of external drive for storage. > > > > Does Apple use normal video connections, such that I can attach a non-Apple monitor? > > > > Will any bluetooth keyboard/mouse work - can I use a cabled one? > > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Fri, Oct 11, 2024 6:55 PM

hi mike,

I just went to the Apple UK website and priced out the exact same mini I mentioned (16G RAM, 512GB SSD, including Logic Pro installed). The price is £1248.99 compared to US$1198.99, which accounting for currency differences, say that the UK price is about 30% greater .. but that price does include VAT, where the US price does not include state and local sales tax, usually about 9.5% where I live in California. So the cost overall is about 20% more expensive in the UK, and most of that difference is in taxes.

Regards the SPAM filter ... about three-quarters of all the messages I get from PDML are assigned as SPAM including my own, no matter what I do to change that. I think this is a problem with whatever the PDML server is putting into the message header. Because of this PDML glitch, I have a 'deSPAMPDML' script which I run on my SPAM mailbox whenever i want to look at PDML email. It puts all the messages in the right place and turns off the SPAM assignment.

G

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On Oct 11, 2024, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:

Sadly, you need to convert those figures to sterling and add quite a bit to obtain an equivalent here.  And you hit SPAM as well.

On 02/10/2024 01:10 BST Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

I don't know what a "normal video connection is".

A new Mac mini cpu configured with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD drive and delivered with Logic Pro installed is approx $1200. It has an HDMI port to drive video output, so any display with an HDMI input is usable, and any keyboard/mouse/trackpad input device with Bluetooth, USB-A, or USB-C/Thunderbolt outputs will be useable.

I would spend the extra couple hundred $ and go with 1TB SSD because sound and video manipulations generally consume a lot of disk space. External drives for extended storage with USB-C connection are best, and are reasonably inexpensive for capacities of 4 to 6 TB.

Apple systems are generally supported for about 5-6 years of macOS revisions, so that gives your daughter a computer she can rely upon for an entire University degree program, rather than buying an old system that will go out of date and not be upgradable to the next revision of the apps/macOS she needs.

(This is pretty much precisely what my partner and I gifted our niece with over the Summer because she is starting her University degree program as well. We went with a MacBook Air laptop, though, because she needed/wanted mobility use, which added a bit to the cost. Call it $1900, and that of course includes the display and keyboard in the unit rather than having to purchase them separately. She'll use it for the entirety of her degree program, so $500 per year if it was then just tossed into the garbage (which it won't be), so that's really not a lot for an essential part of a modern student's annual University budget.)

G

On Oct 1, 2024, at 7:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:

My daughter is just starting uni and "needs" some form of Apple computer to run the software (Logic) she will be using.  Needs at least OS13.5, apparently.

After wailing and gnashing my teeth for some time because of the utterly ridiculous pricing structure, I am having to work out a way to make this happen.  So, bearing in mind that I am looking primarily at an Apple Mac mini MMFJ3B/A, some questions:

Will this cope?  Fairly sure she will have to use some form of external drive for storage.

Does Apple use normal video connections, such that I can attach a non-Apple monitor?

Will any bluetooth keyboard/mouse work - can I use a cabled one?

Many thanks in anticipation.

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hi mike, I just went to the Apple UK website and priced out the exact same mini I mentioned (16G RAM, 512GB SSD, including Logic Pro installed). The price is £1248.99 compared to US$1198.99, which accounting for currency differences, say that the UK price is about 30% greater .. but that price does include VAT, where the US price does not include state and local sales tax, usually about 9.5% where I live in California. So the cost overall is about 20% more expensive in the UK, and most of that difference is in taxes. Regards the SPAM filter ... about three-quarters of all the messages I get from PDML are assigned as SPAM including my own, no matter what I do to change that. I think this is a problem with whatever the PDML server is putting into the message header. Because of this PDML glitch, I have a 'deSPAMPDML' script which I run on my SPAM mailbox whenever i want to look at PDML email. It puts all the messages in the right place and turns off the SPAM assignment. G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." – Charlie Brown > On Oct 11, 2024, at 8:54 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Sadly, you need to convert those figures to sterling and add quite a bit to obtain an equivalent here. And you hit SPAM as well. >> On 02/10/2024 01:10 BST Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >> >> >> I don't know what a "normal video connection is". >> >> A new Mac mini cpu configured with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD drive and delivered with Logic Pro installed is approx $1200. It has an HDMI port to drive video output, so any display with an HDMI input is usable, and any keyboard/mouse/trackpad input device with Bluetooth, USB-A, or USB-C/Thunderbolt outputs will be useable. >> >> I would spend the extra couple hundred $ and go with 1TB SSD because sound and video manipulations generally consume a lot of disk space. External drives for extended storage with USB-C connection are best, and are reasonably inexpensive for capacities of 4 to 6 TB. >> >> Apple systems are generally supported for about 5-6 years of macOS revisions, so that gives your daughter a computer she can rely upon for an entire University degree program, rather than buying an old system that will go out of date and not be upgradable to the next revision of the apps/macOS she needs. >> >> (This is pretty much precisely what my partner and I gifted our niece with over the Summer because she is starting her University degree program as well. We went with a MacBook Air laptop, though, because she needed/wanted mobility use, which added a bit to the cost. Call it $1900, and that of course includes the display and keyboard in the unit rather than having to purchase them separately. She'll use it for the entirety of her degree program, so $500 per year if it was then just tossed into the garbage (which it won't be), so that's really not a lot for an essential part of a modern student's annual University budget.) >> >> G >> >>> On Oct 1, 2024, at 7:31 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>> My daughter is just starting uni and "needs" some form of Apple computer to run the software (Logic) she will be using. Needs at least OS13.5, apparently. >>> >>> After wailing and gnashing my teeth for some time because of the utterly ridiculous pricing structure, I am having to work out a way to make this happen. So, bearing in mind that I am looking primarily at an Apple Mac mini MMFJ3B/A, some questions: >>> >>> Will this cope? Fairly sure she will have to use some form of external drive for storage. >>> >>> Does Apple use normal video connections, such that I can attach a non-Apple monitor? >>> >>> Will any bluetooth keyboard/mouse work - can I use a cabled one? >>> >>> Many thanks in anticipation. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.