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Rick Womer
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 2:08 AM
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Rick
(who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Rick
(who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
LC
Larry Colen
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 4:54 AM
On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Are they still on the card?
Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what happens? Are more files missing?
Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
Rick
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> On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It happened again.
>
> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
>
> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>
> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
>
> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
>
> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
>
> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
>
> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Are they still on the card?
Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what happens? Are more files missing?
Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
>
> Rick
>
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Toine
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 6:11 AM
I would try to locate the files on (one of) the disc(s). The exclamation
sign is LR telling it can't find the files. Most likely you copied the
files to an internal or external drive which disconnected or failed. The
system disc must be up and running because LR is running
On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Are they still on the card?
Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
happens? Are more files missing?
Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
Rick
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I would try to locate the files on (one of) the disc(s). The exclamation
sign is LR telling it can't find the files. Most likely you copied the
files to an internal or external drive which disconnected or failed. The
system disc must be up and running because LR is running
On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It happened again.
> >
> > Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
> I took about 50 shots.
> >
> > As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
> the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
> >
> > I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
> and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
> only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
> backup.
> >
> > I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
> posted as PESOs.
> >
> > This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
> with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
> backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
> on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
> >
> > I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
> and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
> few months.
> >
> > Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>
> Are they still on the card?
>
> Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
>
> When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
> happens? Are more files missing?
>
> Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
>
> When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
> term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
> that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
>
>
>
> >
> > Rick
> >
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mike wilson
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 6:40 AM
On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
(who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
My deepest sympathies.
> On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
My deepest sympathies.
T
Toine
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 7:01 AM
Installing some kind of S.M.A.R.T. HDD monitoring tool (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.) could help detect HDD's ready to
fail. That said I had several failed HDD's and SMART didn't help. In fact
my oldest running HDD's have a red flag according to SMART. Backup is the
only solution. I rely on Goodsync for replicating files across 2 or more
HDD's, Amazon Photos and Onedrive to sync it to the cloud and backblaze to
create another backup. Backblaze is great but it takes its time before a
file is put in the backup queue. Amazon Photos was horrible and unreliable
the last years, they apparently changed something and now it's working as
expected. I check every now and then if files are really backuped to
onedrive, amazon and backblaze by checking their webversions of the tools.
On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 08:40, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
(who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup
procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is
slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
My deepest sympathies.
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Installing some kind of S.M.A.R.T. HDD monitoring tool (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.) could help detect HDD's ready to
fail. That said I had several failed HDD's and SMART didn't help. In fact
my oldest running HDD's have a red flag according to SMART. Backup is the
only solution. I rely on Goodsync for replicating files across 2 or more
HDD's, Amazon Photos and Onedrive to sync it to the cloud and backblaze to
create another backup. Backblaze is great but it takes its time before a
file is put in the backup queue. Amazon Photos was horrible and unreliable
the last years, they apparently changed something and now it's working as
expected. I check every now and then if files are really backuped to
onedrive, amazon and backblaze by checking their webversions of the tools.
On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 08:40, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> > (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
>
> Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup
> procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is
> slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
>
> My deepest sympathies.
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mike wilson
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 9:38 AM
Wouldn't have helped. Partly my own stupidity but I had three copies and two went bad within days of each other. Bought new drives to redo the backups but thought I would add some stuff first. In the middle of a card transfer, we had one of those micro power failures that make lights flicker and computers restart. When it did, the drive was unreadable.
I really should have known better as, many years ago, I had my registration for a paypal account go south for the same reason. BACKUP FIRST, then add stuff.
On 07/09/2022 08:01 Toine toine@repiuk.nl wrote:
Installing some kind of S.M.A.R.T. HDD monitoring tool (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.) could help detect HDD's ready to
fail. That said I had several failed HDD's and SMART didn't help. In fact
my oldest running HDD's have a red flag according to SMART. Backup is the
only solution. I rely on Goodsync for replicating files across 2 or more
HDD's, Amazon Photos and Onedrive to sync it to the cloud and backblaze to
create another backup. Backblaze is great but it takes its time before a
file is put in the backup queue. Amazon Photos was horrible and unreliable
the last years, they apparently changed something and now it's working as
expected. I check every now and then if files are really backuped to
onedrive, amazon and backblaze by checking their webversions of the tools.
On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 08:40, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
(who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup
procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is
slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
My deepest sympathies.
Wouldn't have helped. Partly my own stupidity but I had three copies and two went bad within days of each other. Bought new drives to redo the backups but thought I would add some stuff first. In the middle of a card transfer, we had one of those micro power failures that make lights flicker and computers restart. When it did, the drive was unreadable.
I really should have known better as, many years ago, I had my registration for a paypal account go south for the same reason. BACKUP FIRST, then add stuff.
> On 07/09/2022 08:01 Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote:
>
>
> Installing some kind of S.M.A.R.T. HDD monitoring tool (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.) could help detect HDD's ready to
> fail. That said I had several failed HDD's and SMART didn't help. In fact
> my oldest running HDD's have a red flag according to SMART. Backup is the
> only solution. I rely on Goodsync for replicating files across 2 or more
> HDD's, Amazon Photos and Onedrive to sync it to the cloud and backblaze to
> create another backup. Backblaze is great but it takes its time before a
> file is put in the backup queue. Amazon Photos was horrible and unreliable
> the last years, they apparently changed something and now it's working as
> expected. I check every now and then if files are really backuped to
> onedrive, amazon and backblaze by checking their webversions of the tools.
>
> On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 08:40, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
> >
> > Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup
> > procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is
> > slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film.
> >
> > My deepest sympathies.
> > --
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Rick Womer
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 1:54 PM
Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them.
I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716)
Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”.
What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two?
Rick
On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Are they still on the card?
Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
happens? Are more files missing?
Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
Rick
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Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them.
I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716)
Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”.
What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two?
Rick
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 2:11 AM, Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It happened again.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
>> I took about 50 shots.
>>>
>>> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
>> the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>>>
>>> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
>> and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
>> only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
>> backup.
>>>
>>> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
>> posted as PESOs.
>>>
>>> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
>> with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
>> backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
>> on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
>>>
>>> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
>> and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
>> few months.
>>>
>>> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Are they still on the card?
>>
>> Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
>>
>> When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
>> happens? Are more files missing?
>>
>> Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
>>
>> When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
>> term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
>> that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
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John Sessoms
Wed, Sep 7, 2022 10:02 PM
One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with
it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files
after I first loaded them (among other problems).
Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer
itself?
Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?
I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple
diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with
Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself.
FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and
FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it
out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for
photography & editing).
I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you
need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ...
On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Rick
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One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with
it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files
after I first loaded them (among other problems).
Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer
itself?
Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?
I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple
diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with
Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself.
FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and
FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it
out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for
photography & editing).
I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you
need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ...
On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> It happened again.
>
> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
>
> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>
> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
>
> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
>
> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
>
> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
>
> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
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John Sessoms
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I'd want to know WHY two hard disks crapped out at the same time before
hooking a third drive to the computer.
On 9/7/2022 9:54 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them.
I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716)
Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”.
What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two?
Rick
On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Are they still on the card?
Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
happens? Are more files missing?
Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
Rick
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I'd want to know WHY two hard disks crapped out at the same time before
hooking a third drive to the computer.
On 9/7/2022 9:54 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them.
>
> I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716)
>
> Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”.
>
> What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two?
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 2:11 AM, Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It happened again.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood.
>>> I took about 50 shots.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into
>>> the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>>>>
>>>> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare
>>> and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used
>>> only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze
>>> backup.
>>>>
>>>> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be
>>> posted as PESOs.
>>>>
>>>> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box
>>> with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s
>>> backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either
>>> on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems;
>>> and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last
>>> few months.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Are they still on the card?
>>>
>>> Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files?
>>>
>>> When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what
>>> happens? Are more files missing?
>>>
>>> Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged?
>>>
>>> When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short
>>> term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean
>>> that up, after I’ve made my three backups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
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I won’t use Lightroom for similar reasons. I manually put my dng files in a labeled folder where it belongs and immediately back it up. I retrieve and organize files with Bridge. Idiot proof. Which I need.
Paul
On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:
One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I first loaded them (among other problems).
Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer itself?
Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?
I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself.
FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & editing).
I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ...
On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Rick
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I won’t use Lightroom for similar reasons. I manually put my dng files in a labeled folder where it belongs and immediately back it up. I retrieve and organize files with Bridge. Idiot proof. Which I need.
Paul
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I first loaded them (among other problems).
>
> Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer itself?
>
> Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?
>
> I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself.
>
> FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & editing).
>
> I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ...
>
>> On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> It happened again.
>> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots.
>> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
>> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs.
>> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze.
>> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
>> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>> Rick
>> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
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