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John
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 8:40 PM

FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I
probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.

I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera stores
when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.

https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006

... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the bayonet.

I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe
cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as likely
to lose the replacement one too?

On 4/3/2021 11:00:35, Alan C wrote:

Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault. I didn't mean to be a red rag. I simply
said that I was surprised an external charger wasn't included when you are
already paying so much for the camera. Thank goodness it wasn't me who mentioned
the lack of a hot-shoe cover.

Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 04:44 PM, Bill wrote:

On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or for
that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?

As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the
charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

Except.... if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you
are less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.

Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems don't we?

If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you buy your
spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger to go along with
it.
If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the camera
in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the morning.

I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science.

bill

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FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover. I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera stores when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer. https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006 ... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the bayonet. I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as likely to lose the replacement one too? On 4/3/2021 11:00:35, Alan C wrote: > Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault. I didn't mean to be a red rag. I simply > said that I was surprised an external charger wasn't included when you are > already paying so much for the camera. Thank goodness it wasn't me who mentioned > the lack of a hot-shoe cover. > > Alan C > > On 03-Apr-21 04:44 PM, Bill wrote: >> On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>>> On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or for >>>> that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger? >>>> >>>> As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the >>>> charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. >>> >>> Except.... if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you >>> are less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger. >> >> Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems don't we? >> >> If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you buy your >> spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger to go along with >> it. >> If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the camera >> in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the morning. >> >> I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science. >> >> bill >> -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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Larry Colen
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 8:58 PM

On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:40 PM, John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.

I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera stores when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.

https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006

... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the bayonet.

I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren’t
you just as likely to lose the replacement one too?

Because they are collectors and buy collectors items.

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:40 PM, John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover. > > I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera stores when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer. > > https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006 > > ... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the bayonet. > > I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren’t > you just as likely to lose the replacement one too? > Because they are collectors and buy collectors items.
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Bill
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 9:04 PM

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 1:29 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, fotoralf@gmx.de
wrote:

Am 31.03.21 um 09:33 schrieb Henk Terhell:

What am I to make of this:

"The PENTAX K-3 Mark III allows AE photography at the closed-down
aperture for M-series lenses and lenses that previously could be used
only in open-aperture shooting."

Any difference to the behaviour of former Pentax DSLR bodies with e.g. M
lenses? Wouldn't I have to use the green button for measuring anymore?

Green button automatic now works off the shutter button. Push the shutter
button and it goes through the green button motions and takes the picture.
Since the camera works at 12fps, this should be a very quick operation.
I believe they have extended the feature to a couple of other exposure
modes, but I don't recall which ones.

bill

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 1:29 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, <fotoralf@gmx.de> wrote: > Am 31.03.21 um 09:33 schrieb Henk Terhell: > > https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review > > Recommended price is $ 2000. > > What am I to make of this: > > "The PENTAX K-3 Mark III allows AE photography at the closed-down > aperture for M-series lenses and lenses that previously could be used > only in open-aperture shooting." > > Any difference to the behaviour of former Pentax DSLR bodies with e.g. M > lenses? Wouldn't I have to use the green button for measuring anymore? > Green button automatic now works off the shutter button. Push the shutter button and it goes through the green button motions and takes the picture. Since the camera works at 12fps, this should be a very quick operation. I believe they have extended the feature to a couple of other exposure modes, but I don't recall which ones. bill >
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Bill
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 9:07 PM

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 2:40 p.m. John, jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p.
I
probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.

I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera
stores
when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.

https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006

... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to
the bayonet.

I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement
hot-shoe
cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as
likely
to lose the replacement one too?

I'm pretty sure the camera comes with the typical hot shoe cover. The 50
dollar one is some sort of collectors item.
I don't get it, but apparently the home market is big on this stuff.

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 2:40 p.m. John, <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. > I > probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover. > > I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera > stores > when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer. > > > https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006 > > ... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to > the bayonet. > > I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement > hot-shoe > cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as > likely > to lose the replacement one too? > I'm pretty sure the camera comes with the typical hot shoe cover. The 50 dollar one is some sort of collectors item. I don't get it, but apparently the home market is big on this stuff. >
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Ralf R Radermacher
Sat, Apr 3, 2021 10:31 PM

Am 03.04.21 um 22:20 schrieb John:

I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D

Do you still use any of them?

Ralf

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Am 03.04.21 um 22:20 schrieb John: > I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D Do you still use any of them? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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John
Mon, Apr 5, 2021 12:35 PM

K-1 & K-3; occasionally the K10D & K20D.

I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film out of
my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to process the film & I
have yet to establish a relationship with an on-line lab.

And then of course there was the little problem with using any of them in 2020
and 2021 is not off to a great start.

Plus other shit gets in the way.

Regarding the K-3 III, I've been giving it some thought, and I was really
spoiled by the articulating screen on the back of the K-1 and I don't understand
why Ricoh didn't add it to the K-3 III.

On 4/3/2021 18:31:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 03.04.21 um 22:20 schrieb John:

I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D

Do you still use any of them?

Ralf

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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

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Religion - Answers we must never question.

K-1 & K-3; occasionally the K10D & K20D. I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an on-line lab. And then of course there was the little problem with using any of them in 2020 and 2021 is not off to a great start. Plus other shit gets in the way. Regarding the K-3 III, I've been giving it some thought, and I was really spoiled by the articulating screen on the back of the K-1 and I don't understand why Ricoh didn't add it to the K-3 III. On 4/3/2021 18:31:00, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 03.04.21 um 22:20 schrieb John: > >> I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D > > Do you still use any of them? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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Ralf R Radermacher
Mon, Apr 5, 2021 2:03 PM

Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John:

I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film
out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to
process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an
on-line lab.

Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo
ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything
with the exception of that processor is still there.

Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from
when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home.
Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not
worth enough to be sold. :-/

Ralf

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Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John: > I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film > out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to > process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an > on-line lab. Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything with the exception of that processor is still there. Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home. Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not worth enough to be sold. :-/ Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
RR
Ralf R Radermacher
Mon, Apr 5, 2021 2:16 PM

Stupid old me wrote:

Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001.

Should have incuded the link...

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/das-labor-2001-fotoralfbe/45049685

Ralf

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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

Stupid old me wrote: > Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. Should have incuded the link... https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/das-labor-2001-fotoralfbe/45049685 Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de
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jcoyle@iinet.net.au
Tue, Apr 6, 2021 2:25 AM

You and me both Ralf!  Just working through selling or giving away the last of my mother's stuff, much of which is fetching zilch or a tenth of what my parents paid for it.  Also just sold all my D&P kit, enough, as the buyer said, to set up a complete darkroom at his school for the kids, so I was happy enough with that.  Included two enlargers and three enlarging lenses, which together cost more than I got for the lot.  Selling has not been helped by COVID restrictions, that's for sure.

John in Brisbane

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf R Radermacher fotoralf@gmx.de
Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:03 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John:

I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film
out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to
process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an
on-line lab.

Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo
ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything
with the exception of that processor is still there.

Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from
when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home.
Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not
worth enough to be sold. :-/

Ralf

--
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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web  : http://www.fotoralf.de

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You and me both Ralf! Just working through selling or giving away the last of my mother's stuff, much of which is fetching zilch or a tenth of what my parents paid for it. Also just sold all my D&P kit, enough, as the buyer said, to set up a complete darkroom at his school for the kids, so I was happy enough with that. Included two enlargers and three enlarging lenses, which together cost more than I got for the lot. Selling has not been helped by COVID restrictions, that's for sure. John in Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Ralf R Radermacher <fotoralf@gmx.de> Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:03 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: DP initial review of K-3 III Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John: > I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film > out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to > process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an > on-line lab. Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything with the exception of that processor is still there. Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home. Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not worth enough to be sold. :-/ Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Darren Addy
Tue, Apr 6, 2021 10:45 PM

It seems that the flagship has lost her GPS and AstroTrack. I'll be
sticking with my K-3 ii for those features alone.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:26 PM jcoyle@iinet.net.au wrote:

You and me both Ralf!  Just working through selling or giving away the
last of my mother's stuff, much of which is fetching zilch or a tenth of
what my parents paid for it.  Also just sold all my D&P kit, enough, as the
buyer said, to set up a complete darkroom at his school for the kids, so I
was happy enough with that.  Included two enlargers and three enlarging
lenses, which together cost more than I got for the lot.  Selling has not
been helped by COVID restrictions, that's for sure.

John in Brisbane

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf R Radermacher fotoralf@gmx.de
Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:03 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John:

I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film
out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to
process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an
on-line lab.

Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo
ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything
with the exception of that processor is still there.

Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from
when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home.
Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not
worth enough to be sold. :-/

Ralf

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It seems that the flagship has lost her GPS and AstroTrack. I'll be sticking with my K-3 ii for those features alone. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:26 PM <jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: > You and me both Ralf! Just working through selling or giving away the > last of my mother's stuff, much of which is fetching zilch or a tenth of > what my parents paid for it. Also just sold all my D&P kit, enough, as the > buyer said, to set up a complete darkroom at his school for the kids, so I > was happy enough with that. Included two enlargers and three enlarging > lenses, which together cost more than I got for the lot. Selling has not > been helped by COVID restrictions, that's for sure. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf R Radermacher <fotoralf@gmx.de> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:03 AM > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: DP initial review of K-3 III > > Am 05.04.21 um 14:35 schrieb John: > > > I have the LX & K1000 out & I need to use them to clear all of the film > > out of my refrigerator, but I don't currently have a local lab to > > process the film & I have yet to establish a relationship with an > > on-line lab. > > Just posted a photo of my lab in 2001. That was before I got the Jobo > ATL2+ automatic film processor. Last film developed in 2009. Everything > with the exception of that processor is still there. > > Plus, the room is now chock full with the belongings of my mother from > when we cleared out her flat after she moved into an old peoples' home. > Cutlery, china, all sorts of decorations. Too good to throw away, not > worth enough to be sold. :-/ > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above