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Stan Halpin
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 4:00 AM
Rick, we have a whole-house surge protector, it is wired in through the main circuit panel. It seems to help. Or maybe my running in circles three times shouting “boo Canon, boo Nikon, yeah Pentax” is what has provided the protection. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Stan
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On Dec 8, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
Doug,
It's certainly not normal! We've been in this house 37 years and have never
had an event like this before.
We're looking into getting a whole-house surge protector to provide a
second layer of defense..
Rick
On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 6:56 PM Doug Brewer doug@dougbrewerphoto.com wrote:
Rick, have you spoken to your power provider? I mean, we're aware of
your history with electronic equipment and some software packages, but
this kind of event is not normal.
On 12/7/23 5:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
the
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
system,
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
errors
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
Stay tuned.
Rick
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Rick, we have a whole-house surge protector, it is wired in through the main circuit panel. It seems to help. Or maybe my running in circles three times shouting “boo Canon, boo Nikon, yeah Pentax” is what has provided the protection. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Stan
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> On Dec 8, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> It's certainly not normal! We've been in this house 37 years and have never
> had an event like this before.
>
> We're looking into getting a whole-house surge protector to provide a
> second layer of defense..
>
> Rick
>
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 6:56 PM Doug Brewer <doug@dougbrewerphoto.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rick, have you spoken to your power provider? I mean, we're aware of
>> your history with electronic equipment and some software packages, but
>> this kind of event is not normal.
>>
>>
>>> On 12/7/23 5:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
>>> with my photo computer .
>>>
>>> On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
>>> surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
>>> Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
>> the
>>> control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
>>> AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
>>> heating system).
>>>
>>> We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
>> system,
>>> and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
>>> needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
>> errors
>>> on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
>>>
>>> So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
>>> problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
>>> aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
>>> and reformat them.
>>>
>>> Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
>>> drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
>>> cooperates in getting everything accessible.
>>>
>>> Stay tuned.
>>>
>>> Rick
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mike wilson
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 8:24 AM
Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this year, surprisingly.
On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that the
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit system,
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system errors
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this year, surprisingly.
> On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
> with my photo computer .
>
> On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
> surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
> Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that the
> control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
> AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
> heating system).
>
> We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit system,
> and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
> needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system errors
> on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
>
> So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
> problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
> aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
> and reformat them.
>
> Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
> drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
> cooperates in getting everything accessible.
>
>
AC
Alan C
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 3:44 PM
In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
Aircons. The insurance companies have "eliminated" their risk by
insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified
electrician. Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual
surge plugs on sensitive appliances.
Alan C
On 09-Dec-23 10:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this year, surprisingly.
On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that the
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit system,
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system errors
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
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In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
Aircons. The insurance companies have "eliminated" their risk by
insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified
electrician. Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual
surge plugs on sensitive appliances.
Alan C
On 09-Dec-23 10:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this year, surprisingly.
>> On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
>> with my photo computer .
>>
>> On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
>> surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
>> Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that the
>> control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
>> AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
>> heating system).
>>
>> We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit system,
>> and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
>> needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system errors
>> on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
>>
>> So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
>> problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
>> aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
>> and reformat them.
>>
>> Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
>> drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
>> cooperates in getting everything accessible.
>>
>>
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Alan Cole
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 5:24 PM
In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
Aircons. The insurance companies have now "eliminated" their risk by
insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified electrician.
Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual surge plugs on
sensitive appliances.
Alan C
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:41 AM mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably
because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three
failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this
year, surprisingly.
On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
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In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
Aircons. The insurance companies have now "eliminated" their risk by
insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified electrician.
Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual surge plugs on
sensitive appliances.
Alan C
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:41 AM mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably
> because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three
> failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this
> year, surprisingly.
> > On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
> > with my photo computer .
> >
> > On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
> > surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
> > Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
> the
> > control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
> > AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
> > heating system).
> >
> > We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
> system,
> > and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
> > needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
> errors
> > on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
> >
> > So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
> > problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
> > aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
> > and reformat them.
> >
> > Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
> > drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
> > cooperates in getting everything accessible.
> >
> >
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John Sessoms
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 7:14 PM
I'd get an electrician in to check whether the neutral connection has
been compromised.
On 12/7/2023 6:40 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
Rick, have you spoken to your power provider? I mean, we're aware of
your history with electronic equipment and some software packages, but
this kind of event is not normal.
On 12/7/23 5:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
the
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
system,
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
errors
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
Stay tuned.
Rick
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I'd get an electrician in to check whether the neutral connection has
been compromised.
On 12/7/2023 6:40 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> Rick, have you spoken to your power provider? I mean, we're aware of
> your history with electronic equipment and some software packages, but
> this kind of event is not normal.
>
>
> On 12/7/23 5:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
>> with my photo computer .
>>
>> On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
>> surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
>> Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
>> the
>> control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
>> AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
>> heating system).
>>
>> We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
>> system,
>> and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
>> needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
>> errors
>> on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
>>
>> So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
>> problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
>> aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
>> and reformat them.
>>
>> Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
>> drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
>> cooperates in getting everything accessible.
>>
>> Stay tuned.
>>
>> Rick
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mike wilson
Sat, Dec 9, 2023 9:50 PM
Not horrendously expensive here, as long as your consumer unit (fusebox) has room for it. Cartridge types (a base that fits the rail in the unit with a replaceable active part) vary from about £30 to £150. No more than an hour's work for the sparky to fit it. Using surge protector plugs on everything would easily cost us that.
On 09/12/2023 17:24 GMT Alan Cole wisselstroom8@gmail.com wrote:
In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
Aircons. The insurance companies have now "eliminated" their risk by
insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified electrician.
Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual surge plugs on
sensitive appliances.
Alan C
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:41 AM mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably
because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three
failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this
year, surprisingly.
On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
with my photo computer .
On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
the
control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
heating system).
We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
system,
and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
errors
on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
and reformat them.
Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
cooperates in getting everything accessible.
Not horrendously expensive here, as long as your consumer unit (fusebox) has room for it. Cartridge types (a base that fits the rail in the unit with a replaceable active part) vary from about £30 to £150. No more than an hour's work for the sparky to fit it. Using surge protector plugs on everything would easily cost us that.
> On 09/12/2023 17:24 GMT Alan Cole <wisselstroom8@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
> surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
> Aircons. The insurance companies have now "eliminated" their risk by
> insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified electrician.
> Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual surge plugs on
> sensitive appliances.
>
> Alan C
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:41 AM mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably
> > because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure. We had three
> > failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone. None so far this
> > year, surprisingly.
> > > On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
> > > with my photo computer .
> > >
> > > On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
> > > surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
> > > Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
> > the
> > > control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
> > > AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
> > > heating system).
> > >
> > > We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
> > system,
> > > and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
> > > needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
> > errors
> > > on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
> > >
> > > So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
> > > problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
> > > aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
> > > and reformat them.
> > >
> > > Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
> > > drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
> > > cooperates in getting everything accessible.
JS
John Sessoms
Sun, Dec 10, 2023 6:14 PM
The list software may have ideas of its own.
When I was subscribed to the list using my Earthlink email address I'd
regularly get blocked by the SPAM Blacklist software y'all subscribed to.
Some "business" customer of Earthlink would SPAM & the server node would
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Earthlink's "technical support" /s couldn't do anything about it.
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reluctant to go down that road again.......
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The list software may have ideas of its own.
When I was subscribed to the list using my Earthlink email address I'd
regularly get blocked by the SPAM Blacklist software y'all subscribed to.
Some "business" customer of Earthlink would SPAM & the server node would
get blacklisted ... then MY posts would get rejected if my outgoing mail
happened to hit the same server node.
Earthlink's "technical support" /s couldn't do anything about it.
On 12/7/2023 2:36 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> In all the many years I've had this list, I've only ever blocked one
> person, and it wasn't you, Otis.
>
>
> On 12/6/23 3:21 PM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:
>> The last time I "tested" the list I was banned for over a year. I'm
>> reluctant to go down that road again.......
>>
>> Otis Wright
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Larry Colen
Mon, Dec 11, 2023 5:22 AM
On Dec 10, 2023, at 10:14 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:
The list software may have ideas of its own.
When I was subscribed to the list using my Earthlink email address I'd regularly get blocked by the SPAM Blacklist software y'all subscribed to.
Some "business" customer of Earthlink would SPAM & the server node would get blacklisted ... then MY posts would get rejected if my outgoing mail happened to hit the same server node.
Earthlink's "technical support" /s couldn't do anything about it.
Earthlink has long had a reputation for being a haven for spammers, even before hosting spammers was cool.
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> On Dec 10, 2023, at 10:14 AM, John Sessoms <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> The list software may have ideas of its own.
>
> When I was subscribed to the list using my Earthlink email address I'd regularly get blocked by the SPAM Blacklist software y'all subscribed to.
>
> Some "business" customer of Earthlink would SPAM & the server node would get blacklisted ... then MY posts would get rejected if my outgoing mail happened to hit the same server node.
>
> Earthlink's "technical support" /s couldn't do anything about it.
Earthlink has long had a reputation for being a haven for spammers, even before hosting spammers was cool.
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Larry Colen
lrc@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood
