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Alan C
Sat, Apr 10, 2021 8:56 AM

No, not dreaming. That's how good they are now. My wife's older Fuji
only does JPEG yet mostly performs just as well as my K5. IMHO the
Superzooms & Mirrorless are serious challengers to the DSLR's.

BTW, I'm surprised you don't say "veld" which has long been an accepted
English word in SA. Sounds much more romantic than "field"!

Alan C

On 10-Apr-21 10:11 AM, Toine wrote:

The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and
feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning
the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle,
dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60
1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036

RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto
WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld
and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm

Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming

It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some
real birding in the field.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine toine@repiuk.nl wrote:

A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my
best or my worst idea.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell hterhell@chello.nl wrote:

I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have
a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is
much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's.
On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax
DSLR's which, though heavier to carry,  will surely give better results
for landscapes.

Henk

Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine:

After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?

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No, not dreaming. That's how good they are now. My wife's older Fuji only does JPEG yet mostly performs just as well as my K5. IMHO the Superzooms & Mirrorless are serious challengers to the DSLR's. BTW, I'm surprised you don't say "veld" which has long been an accepted English word in SA. Sounds much more romantic than "field"! Alan C On 10-Apr-21 10:11 AM, Toine wrote: > The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and > feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning > the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle, > dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60 > 1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got: > > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016 > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036 > > RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto > WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld > and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm > > Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming > > It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some > real birding in the field. > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote: >> A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my >> best or my worst idea. >> >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell <hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: >>> I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have >>> a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is >>> much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's. >>> On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax >>> DSLR's which, though heavier to carry, will surely give better results >>> for landscapes. >>> >>> Henk >>> >>> Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine: >>>> After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000 >>>> body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450 >>>> for serious birding I think I should consider other options for >>>> birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while >>>> strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back. >>>> Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog >>>> Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :) >>>> >>>> Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format? >>>> -- >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Henk Terhell
Sat, Apr 10, 2021 9:06 AM

Unbelievable to get these results for this long reach without need to crop.
Very little noise.  Most noise is of course introduced with the
brightening of shadows.
You may have put me on a track as I am lacking lenses longer than 300 mm.

Henk

Op 2021-04-10 om 10:11 schreef Toine:

The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and
feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning
the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle,
dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60
1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036

RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto
WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld
and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm

Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming

It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some
real birding in the field.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine toine@repiuk.nl wrote:

A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my
best or my worst idea.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell hterhell@chello.nl wrote:

I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have
a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is
much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's.
On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax
DSLR's which, though heavier to carry,  will surely give better results
for landscapes.

Henk

Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine:

After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?

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Unbelievable to get these results for this long reach without need to crop. Very little noise.  Most noise is of course introduced with the brightening of shadows. You may have put me on a track as I am lacking lenses longer than 300 mm. Henk Op 2021-04-10 om 10:11 schreef Toine: > The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and > feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning > the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle, > dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60 > 1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got: > > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016 > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036 > > RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto > WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld > and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm > > Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming > > It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some > real birding in the field. > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote: >> A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my >> best or my worst idea. >> >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell <hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: >>> I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have >>> a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is >>> much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's. >>> On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax >>> DSLR's which, though heavier to carry, will surely give better results >>> for landscapes. >>> >>> Henk >>> >>> Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine: >>>> After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000 >>>> body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450 >>>> for serious birding I think I should consider other options for >>>> birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while >>>> strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back. >>>> Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog >>>> Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :) >>>> >>>> Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format? >>>> -- >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Toine
Sat, Apr 10, 2021 9:06 AM

Didn't know "veld" was part of the English language. Apparently it
migrated from NL to SA and from SA to UK.

They sure are a challenge for DSLR.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 10:56, Alan C cole@lantic.net wrote:

No, not dreaming. That's how good they are now. My wife's older Fuji
only does JPEG yet mostly performs just as well as my K5. IMHO the
Superzooms & Mirrorless are serious challengers to the DSLR's.

BTW, I'm surprised you don't say "veld" which has long been an accepted
English word in SA. Sounds much more romantic than "field"!

Alan C

On 10-Apr-21 10:11 AM, Toine wrote:

The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and
feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning
the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle,
dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60
1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036

RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto
WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld
and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm

Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming

It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some
real birding in the field.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine toine@repiuk.nl wrote:

A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my
best or my worst idea.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell hterhell@chello.nl wrote:

I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have
a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is
much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's.
On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax
DSLR's which, though heavier to carry,  will surely give better results
for landscapes.

Henk

Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine:

After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?

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Didn't know "veld" was part of the English language. Apparently it migrated from NL to SA and from SA to UK. They sure are a challenge for DSLR. On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 10:56, Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote: > > No, not dreaming. That's how good they are now. My wife's older Fuji > only does JPEG yet mostly performs just as well as my K5. IMHO the > Superzooms & Mirrorless are serious challengers to the DSLR's. > > BTW, I'm surprised you don't say "veld" which has long been an accepted > English word in SA. Sounds much more romantic than "field"! > > Alan C > > On 10-Apr-21 10:11 AM, Toine wrote: > > The P950 arrived yesterday evening. It's a very ugly contraption and > > feels like a plastic toy of 1 kg. Charged the battery and this morning > > the first test shots at the worst conditions possible (grey, drizzle, > > dark) which required high iso (800-1600) and slow shutter speeds (1/60 > > 1/125) at 2000mm and handheld. This is what I got: > > > > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-104-dscn0016 > > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/p950/#&gid=1&pid=006-103-dscn0036 > > > > RAW format and the only edit I applied was hitting auto Tone and auto > > WB in lightroom. The most amazing part is the SR at 2000mm handheld > > and no CA or purple fringing at 2000mm > > > > Can somebody pinch me I must be dreaming > > > > It's now pouring down so I'll have to wait until it's dry for some > > real birding in the field. > > > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:21, Toine <toine@repiuk.nl> wrote: > >> A Coolpix P950 is on it's way. In a few days I will know if it was my > >> best or my worst idea. > >> > >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Henk Terhell <hterhell@chello.nl> wrote: > >>> I have been considering the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ2000. It may not have > >>> a extremely long reach (24-480 mm), but it has a 1 inch sensor that is > >>> much improvement compared to those of standard compact camera's. > >>> On the other hand, it means I would no longer take along my Pentax > >>> DSLR's which, though heavier to carry, will surely give better results > >>> for landscapes. > >>> > >>> Henk > >>> > >>> Op 2021-04-03 om 18:10 schreef Toine: > >>>> After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000 > >>>> body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450 > >>>> for serious birding I think I should consider other options for > >>>> birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while > >>>> strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back. > >>>> Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog > >>>> Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :) > >>>> > >>>> Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format? > >>>> -- > >>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > >>> -- > >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Toine
Sat, Apr 10, 2021 9:14 AM

The P1000 has a 3000mm lens. Out of stock everywhere. Small sensors
are very noisy at higher iso. It's all forgiven if I don't see CA or
purple fringing.

The P1000 has a 3000mm lens. Out of stock everywhere. Small sensors are very noisy at higher iso. It's all forgiven if I don't see CA or purple fringing.