Lightroom again -- AARGH!!!
I'm still using Adobe Bridge (from CS6 Extended) to ORGANIZE photos.
Once I've got them loaded on my Photoshop Computer I save them to my
homemade file server.
I then import the ones I want to use in LR onto the external drive for
my iMac.
I have Lightroom Classic because it's required for some online photo
classes I wanted to take - not because I expected to learn anything
(although maybe I have) - but to have other people to interact with.
I'm really isolated out here since my move to the country and if
Lightroom is the price I have to pay to obtain a social outlet ...
I'm not very comfortable with the NEW rental Photoshop and all the "AI"
stuff.
It still seems to me like it wants to tell me what to do rather than
making it easier for me to do what I want; like it wants to substitute
Adobe's artistic vision for mine.
On 12/28/2025 5:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I don't know where she is, but perhaps you mean Victoria Bampton?
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/
I've been low key wanting to ditch lightroom for about 10 years now. I tried ON1 a while back, primarily because it claimed that it could transfer lightroom catalogs. Unfortunately, that didn't work so well, and there were too many features I used that worked so much better in LR.
Ever since I started using LR, I have been storing my photos in a directory tree that didn't rely on the LR data base to find things, so that when I do change, I'll be able to find things. I know that when I do change, it's going to be a hellish process.
On Dec 28, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I am running LR Classic 15.1 on a Mac, with an up-to-date OS.
For no apparent reason, LR has again ost track of about 10,000 of my 63,000 photos. This first happened a couple of years ago. After a few weeks of struggle, I contacted a Lightroom expert that my wife somehow smoked out. Neither of us can find her contact information, though.
Does anyone know of such a person? She lived on Long Island.
Which non-Adobe photo editors should I look at?
Rick
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On 2025-12-29 17:02, John Sessoms wrote:
I'm really isolated out here since my move to the country and if
Lightroom is the price I have to pay to obtain a social outlet ...
What are we? Virtual chopped liver?
I'm not very comfortable with the NEW rental Photoshop and all the "AI"
stuff.
I will admit that some of the things that it uses AI for work well, like
facial recognition, denoise, assisted culling, "delete object and fill"
It still seems to me like it wants to tell me what to do rather than
making it easier for me to do what I want; like it wants to substitute
Adobe's artistic vision for mine.
Yeah, I hate that "auto" on the exposure won't bring all frames of a
bracket to the same exposure.
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I notice my messages to the list at times appear to have been authored by Comcast. Odd.
Paul
On Dec 29, 2025, at 4:37 PM, Henk Terhell henk.terhell@gmail.com wrote:
I prefer Lightroom Classic for organizing and editing and I have been able a few times to transfer catalogs and folders to a new windows PC and new external hard disk. There are now so many easy masks and other new functions - like AI denoise and remove - that make Lightroom Classic most useful.
The subscription fee of €12/month is acceptable to me considering how much I use it (and I got no Netflix-like subscriptions).
However I do also use Affinity Photo 2 (last paid version) for special editing (e.g. clone and healing brush), sharpening as well as focus stacking. In Photoshop I don't find my way as easy as in Affinity Photo.
Henk
Op 29-12-2025 om 15:36 schreef Comcast:
I never got comfortable with Lightroom. I’ve used Photoshop for rendering since I first started digitizing work. Somewhere along the line I adapted Adobe Bridge as my file system. I have Lightroom cloud and classic since I subscribe to the Adobe photo package but I never got comfortable with it. Photoshop has too many tools that i like to give it up. (The Raw filter is a godsend.) i suspect the equivalent may be available in Lightroom, but I’m not motivated to fin out!
Paul
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On 30/12/2025 15:51, Comcast wrote:
I notice my messages to the list at times appear to have been authored by Comcast. Odd.
Paul
On Dec 29, 2025, at 4:37 PM, Henk Terhell henk.terhell@gmail.com wrote:
I prefer Lightroom Classic for organizing and editing and I have been able a few times to transfer catalogs and folders to a new windows PC and new external hard disk. There are now so many easy masks and other new functions - like AI denoise and remove - that make Lightroom Classic most useful.
The subscription fee of €12/month is acceptable to me considering how much I use it (and I got no Netflix-like subscriptions).
However I do also use Affinity Photo 2 (last paid version) for special editing (e.g. clone and healing brush), sharpening as well as focus stacking. In Photoshop I don't find my way as easy as in Affinity Photo.
Henk
Op 29-12-2025 om 15:36 schreef Comcast:
I never got comfortable with Lightroom. I’ve used Photoshop for rendering since I first started digitizing work. Somewhere along the line I adapted Adobe Bridge as my file system. I have Lightroom cloud and classic since I subscribe to the Adobe photo package but I never got comfortable with it. Photoshop has too many tools that i like to give it up. (The Raw filter is a godsend.) i suspect the equivalent may be available in Lightroom, but I’m not motivated to fin out!
Paul
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It has been a busy day, and I just fired up the computer about a half hour ago 8:30 pm here in Philadelphia).. I appreciate the replies.
On Dec 29, 2025, at 5:31 PM, Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:
Am 29.12.25 um 22:37 schrieb Henk Terhell:
IIn Photoshop I don't find my way as easy as in Affinity Photo.
In my book Photoshop would be the only reason to take out a LR subscription. Gimp royally sucks.
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Stan, the missing photos don’t show up in LrC at all—there are just blank grey squares, though they are intact on my computer.
On Dec 28, 2025, at 10:58 PM, Stan Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
Re alternatives - I continue using LR Classic because it works for me and I don’t want to learn new stuff. I did briefly play with an early ON1 but was not impressed.
Re the “lost” files - lost? When you say LR loses track of images, do they show up at all? E.g. are the thumbnails still there in Grid mode? If the Thumbnails are there, tracking back is fairly easy… if not, can you just re-import?
Stan
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On Dec 28, 2025, at 4:26 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I am running LR Classic 15.1 on a Mac, with an up-to-date OS.
For no apparent reason, LR has again ost track of about 10,000 of my 63,000 photos. This first happened a couple of years ago. After a few weeks of struggle, I contacted a Lightroom expert that my wife somehow smoked out. Neither of us can find her contact information, though.
Does anyone know of such a person? She lived on Long Island.
Which non-Adobe photo editors should I look at?
Rick
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On Jan 1, 2026, at 8:16 AM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
Stan, the missing photos don’t show up in LrC at all—there are just blank grey squares, though they are intact on my computer.
Wait a second. If there are spaces for them on the display, in that directory, then they are in lightroom. It just isn't showing previews.
If you click on library-> find all missing photos
do they list as missing?
If you select them then click on library->previews->smart previews (or standard previews)
do the previews for them show up?
If you double click on one of the grey squares, what happens?
- LRC
On Dec 28, 2025, at 10:58 PM, Stan Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:
Re alternatives - I continue using LR Classic because it works for me and I don’t want to learn new stuff. I did briefly play with an early ON1 but was not impressed.
Re the “lost” files - lost? When you say LR loses track of images, do they show up at all? E.g. are the thumbnails still there in Grid mode? If the Thumbnails are there, tracking back is fairly easy… if not, can you just re-import?
Stan
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On Dec 28, 2025, at 4:26 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:
I am running LR Classic 15.1 on a Mac, with an up-to-date OS.
For no apparent reason, LR has again ost track of about 10,000 of my 63,000 photos. This first happened a couple of years ago. After a few weeks of struggle, I contacted a Lightroom expert that my wife somehow smoked out. Neither of us can find her contact information, though.
Does anyone know of such a person? She lived on Long Island.
Which non-Adobe photo editors should I look at?
Rick
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On 1/1/2026 10:16 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Stan, the missing photos don’t show up in LrC at all—there are just blank grey squares, though they are intact on my computer.
That sounds like they got moved outside of Lightroom. You can tell
Lightroom to find them. It will ask you to point to where they are and
will change the catalogue accordingly.
bill
I think that if files are missing, then lightroom will mark them with a
bang '!'. I've noticed that the latest version of lightroom will mark
parent directories of missing files.
I have learned the painful lesson about only moving files using
lightroom.
I also have my directory tree set up so that it will still be easy to
find files when I switch to a program other than LR.
On 2026-01-01 11:12, Bill wrote:
On 1/1/2026 10:16 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Stan, the missing photos don’t show up in LrC at all—there are just
blank grey squares, though they are intact on my computer.
That sounds like they got moved outside of Lightroom. You can tell
Lightroom to find them. It will ask you to point to where they are and
will change the catalogue accordingly.
bill
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