Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera
On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:
Minox 35... I still have my Minox 35GT-E, which I purchased new in 1998. It is a lovely camera and has made many great photos for me. I've currently got it loaded with some Tri-X and may take it on my two-week excursion to the Right Coast tomorrow.
Regards terminology, cameras like this, the Rollei 35, the Voigtländer Perkeo II, etc, are "scale focus" cameras ... they have no rangefinder or TTL viewing system, you focus by setting a distance on the focusing scale. A true "zone focusing camera" is even simpler than this: the focusing scale has no distance markings, just symbols to indicate far, intermediate distances, and close up.
We may not always agree on everything, but I do admire and respect your cyclopedic (Polyphemian?) knowledge on so many topics.
I did think of you yesterday when I passed a light blue Giullia(?) sprint of similar vintage to yours. As I was driivng unfortunately as I was driving, getting a photo wasn't feasible.
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On 3/4/2024 3:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
As long as this camera keeps them happy for, say, half a year or 4
rolls of film until it ends up in a drawer with all their other no
longer fashionable gadgets, it certainly will fit the bill.
Ralf
That would make it's usage identical to probably 95% of all cameras ever
sold.
bill
Am 05.03.24 um 00:08 schrieb Bill:
That would make it's usage identical to probably 95% of all cameras
ever sold.
Right enough.
Ralf
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On March 4, 2024 3:08:47 PM PST, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/4/2024 3:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
As long as this camera keeps them happy for, say, half a year or 4 rolls of film until it ends up in a drawer with all their other no longer fashionable gadgets, it certainly will fit the bill.
And much higher than for dirty laundry hangers that mascarade as home gyms
Ralf
That would make it's usage identical to probably 95% of all cameras ever sold.
bill
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Thank you, Larry.
Hmm. My Lancia is a 1967 model ... I seem to recall the Alfa Romeo type 105 chassis replaced the Giulia Sprint and its siblings, starting around 1965 or 1966, but I'd have to look them up to be certain. Doesn't matter really ... the Giulia Sprint and Guiletta Spider are lovely cars and a delight to drive.
My Fulvia's muffler lost a dime sized hole out of the end of the main muffler last week, and the muffler is cracking all the way around now. But that small additional opening netted a rather pretty exhaust sound. So I've ordered an Abarth system to replace the stock exhaust and give the car a little more aural character ... the stock Fulvia Coupé exhaust is rather quiet, but that little V4 makes such a pretty sound it deserves a more sporting system to highlight it. :)
onwards!
G
On Mar 4, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:
Minox 35... I still have my Minox 35GT-E, which I purchased new in 1998. It is a lovely camera and has made many great photos for me. I've currently got it loaded with some Tri-X and may take it on my two-week excursion to the Right Coast tomorrow.
Regards terminology, cameras like this, the Rollei 35, the Voigtländer Perkeo II, etc, are "scale focus" cameras ... they have no rangefinder or TTL viewing system, you focus by setting a distance on the focusing scale. A true "zone focusing camera" is even simpler than this: the focusing scale has no distance markings, just symbols to indicate far, intermediate distances, and close up.
We may not always agree on everything, but I do admire and respect your cyclopedic (Polyphemian?) knowledge on so many topics.
I did think of you yesterday when I passed a light blue Giullia(?) sprint of similar vintage to yours. As I was driivng unfortunately as I was driving, getting a photo wasn't feasible.
Cheaper to peg a playing card to the fender ;-)
Cot
On 5 Mar 2024, at 07:37, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:
So I've ordered an Abarth system to replace the stock exhaust and give the car a little more aural character ... the stock Fulvia Coupé exhaust is rather quiet, but that little V4 makes such a pretty sound it deserves a more sporting system to highlight it. :)
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If that’s not the start of a Frankie Howerd joke then I’m a Vestal Virgin.
On Mar 4, 2024, at 11:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:
Thank you, Larry.
Hmm. My Lancia is a 1967 model ... I seem to recall the Alfa Romeo type 105 chassis replaced the Giulia Sprint and its siblings, starting around 1965 or 1966, but I'd have to look them up to be certain. Doesn't matter really ... the Giulia Sprint and Guiletta Spider are lovely cars and a delight to drive.
I did some poking around, and what I saw looked like it might have been a 1954 sprint coupe, rounded body lines and very small.
My Fulvia's muffler lost a dime sized hole out of the end of the main muffler last week, and the muffler is cracking all the way around now. But that small additional opening netted a rather pretty exhaust sound. So I've ordered an Abarth system to replace the stock exhaust and give the car a little more aural character ... the stock Fulvia Coupé exhaust is rather quiet, but that little V4 makes such a pretty sound it deserves a more sporting system to highlight it. :)
Upon reflection, we're coming up on 40 years since the muffler unwelded itself on my sprite, the day before I was heading to a camping event at Grant Park on Mount Hamilton. (when I moved the exhaust system from the '68 body to the '64 it was cut and re-welded). Driving up Mt. Hamilton, on a beautiful afternoon, top down, with straight pipes will long be one of those cherished memories of everything coming together for a perfect moment in time.
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On 3/4/2024 3:53 AM, Bob W PDML wrote:
On 3 Mar 2024, at 17:45, Ralf R Radermacherpdml@uebra.de wrote:
Am 03.03.24 um 18:29 schrieb Bill:
I was quite surprised that it is a vertical half frame, but the logic behind that decision is that a vertical format is what the target market is already comfortable with.
Making it a horizontal half frame would mean transporting the film from top to bottom and a very odd shape of the camera.
[…]
Actually it would be the same shape but in a different orientation. I’m not a mechanical engineer so I might be completely wrong, but if you put the film advance on the new top of the camera it would perhaps need only one more gear to deal with the change of orientation. The rewind crank doesn’t need to be on the new top.
Making the camera square would do away with that. In fact using a square negative 24x24 would give you 54 frames per roll.
A lot of people now like to see the sprocket holes in the picture, postmodernly drawing attention to it being film, so making the frame mask switchable might be an interesting option.
In the video he talks about using zone focusing on the camera. I wonder if he means click-stops on the focus ring, or perhaps on a dial, with symbols for the type of shot, eg headshot, head and shoulders, cowboy, full-length, group/wide shot, landscape etc. That could also be used to determine the exposure settings in conjunction with the orientation of the camera, favouring a larger aperture for closer portraits to increase background blur, and a smaller aperture for wider shots using the hyperfocal distance to give the greatest depth of field.
The problem with square format in this case is that it's a bastard sized
negative that won't be scan-able or printable in conventional labs. For
the format to work it needs to be a 35mm format that has been in use.
Even half frame is going to be a problem because of how few labs are
equipped for it, but at least half frame masks can be had.
bill
It's old enough that it does NOT have a catalytic convertor for someone
to steal isn't it?
On 3/5/2024 2:37 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Thank you, Larry.
Hmm. My Lancia is a 1967 model ... I seem to recall the Alfa Romeo type 105 chassis replaced the Giulia Sprint and its siblings, starting around 1965 or 1966, but I'd have to look them up to be certain. Doesn't matter really ... the Giulia Sprint and Guiletta Spider are lovely cars and a delight to drive.
My Fulvia's muffler lost a dime sized hole out of the end of the main muffler last week, and the muffler is cracking all the way around now. But that small additional opening netted a rather pretty exhaust sound. So I've ordered an Abarth system to replace the stock exhaust and give the car a little more aural character ... the stock Fulvia Coupé exhaust is rather quiet, but that little V4 makes such a pretty sound it deserves a more sporting system to highlight it. :)
onwards!
G
On Mar 4, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:
Minox 35... I still have my Minox 35GT-E, which I purchased new in 1998. It is a lovely camera and has made many great photos for me. I've currently got it loaded with some Tri-X and may take it on my two-week excursion to the Right Coast tomorrow.
Regards terminology, cameras like this, the Rollei 35, the Voigtländer Perkeo II, etc, are "scale focus" cameras ... they have no rangefinder or TTL viewing system, you focus by setting a distance on the focusing scale. A true "zone focusing camera" is even simpler than this: the focusing scale has no distance markings, just symbols to indicate far, intermediate distances, and close up.
We may not always agree on everything, but I do admire and respect your cyclopedic (Polyphemian?) knowledge on so many topics.
I did think of you yesterday when I passed a light blue Giullia(?) sprint of similar vintage to yours. As I was driivng unfortunately as I was driving, getting a photo wasn't feasible.
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