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Is anyone still using ON1?

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Ralf R Radermacher
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 6:42 PM

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated.
Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than surrender
to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to
fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the
proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish
photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated. What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee... Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish photos anymore. Any advice? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012
LC
Larry Colen
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 7:28 PM

I absolutely hate ransomware, what I hate even more is that Lightroom is
still far superior to anything else for what I do, and in general they
keep improving it.

I have my gripes in that auto tone doesn't look to see that shots are
bracketed and automatically adjust them to some nominal best exposure,
but their match total exposure button works pretty well.

My advice is to put a stack of mattresses or at least empty boxes on the
ground, jump off the roof and give LRC a try for a month. You could just
save up all of your serious editing and just use the ransomware a month
at a time and suspend it until your next batch. You might also be able
to find someone to share the monthly ransom.

On 2026-11-12 10:42, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more
frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and
complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than
surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really
thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable
looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish
photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

I absolutely hate ransomware, what I hate even more is that Lightroom is still far superior to anything else for what I do, and in general they keep improving it. I have my gripes in that auto tone doesn't look to see that shots are bracketed and automatically adjust them to some nominal best exposure, but their match total exposure button works pretty well. My advice is to put a stack of mattresses or at least empty boxes on the ground, jump off the roof and give LRC a try for a month. You could just save up all of your serious editing and just use the ransomware a month at a time and suspend it until your next batch. You might also be able to find someone to share the monthly ransom. On 2026-11-12 10:42, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more > frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and > complicated. > > What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than > surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really > thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable > looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee... > > Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish > photos anymore. > > Any advice? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- Larry Colen LRC@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
MW
Mike Wilson
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 8:55 PM

Gimp has improved immeasurably since its first iteration.  And it is still
free.

I also heard that someone described LR, in great detail, to an AI agent and
then charged it, successfully, to produce something similar.  If the tale
is true, it brings me great joy.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 7:18 PM Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated.
Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than surrender
to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to
fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the
proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish
photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

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Gimp has improved immeasurably since its first iteration. And it is still free. I also heard that someone described LR, in great detail, to an AI agent and then charged it, successfully, to produce something similar. If the tale is true, it brings me great joy. On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 7:18 PM Ralf R Radermacher <pdml@uebra.de> wrote: > ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. > Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated. > > What are the alternatives? I'd rather Jump from the roof than surrender > to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to > fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the > proverbial horse designed by a committee... > > Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish > photos anymore. > > Any advice? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Larry Colen
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 9:13 PM

On 2026-11-12 12:55, Mike Wilson wrote:

Gimp has improved immeasurably since its first iteration.  And it is
still
free.

I also heard that someone described LR, in great detail, to an AI agent
and
then charged it, successfully, to produce something similar.  If the
tale
is true, it brings me great joy.

Yeah, it sort of works. Probably at about the level of Lightroom in 2009

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Larry Colen  LRC@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc

On 2026-11-12 12:55, Mike Wilson wrote: > Gimp has improved immeasurably since its first iteration. And it is > still > free. > > I also heard that someone described LR, in great detail, to an AI agent > and > then charged it, successfully, to produce something similar. If the > tale > is true, it brings me great joy. Yeah, it sort of works. Probably at about the level of Lightroom in 2009 -- Larry Colen LRC@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
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Henk Terhell
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 10:25 PM

Though I have a subscription of Lightroom Classic/Photoshop there are
tasks such as sharpening, retouching, deghosting  and photo stacking
that I carry out in Affinity Photo. For some reason I find my way in
Affinity to be easier than in Photoshop. I still use the paid 2.2
version of Affinity, however the currently free version built in Canva
is supposed to be the same.

Henk

Op 12-11-2026 om 19:42 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more
frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and
complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than
surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really
thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable
looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish
photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

Though I have a subscription of Lightroom Classic/Photoshop there are tasks such as sharpening, retouching, deghosting  and photo stacking that I carry out in Affinity Photo. For some reason I find my way in Affinity to be easier than in Photoshop. I still use the paid 2.2 version of Affinity, however the currently free version built in Canva is supposed to be the same. Henk Op 12-11-2026 om 19:42 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: > ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more > frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and > complicated. > > What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than > surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really > thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable > looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee... > > Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish > photos anymore. > > Any advice? > > Ralf >
PS
Paul Stenquist
Thu, Nov 12, 2026 11:32 PM

Nothing wrong with Adobe. It’s the bedrock support for the entire graphics and design industry. I use the Adobe photo package every day and it gets better with each iteration. I think I’m paying about $10 a month, not a big deal,  a bargain in fact.
Paul

On Nov 12, 2026, at 1:42 PM, Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

--
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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

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Nothing wrong with Adobe. It’s the bedrock support for the entire graphics and design industry. I use the Adobe photo package every day and it gets better with each iteration. I think I’m paying about $10 a month, not a big deal, a bargain in fact. Paul > On Nov 12, 2026, at 1:42 PM, Ralf R Radermacher <pdml@uebra.de> wrote: > > ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated. > > What are the alternatives? I'd rather Jump from the roof than surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee... > > Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish photos anymore. > > Any advice? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Alan Cole
Fri, Nov 13, 2026 6:08 AM

It may be a "bargain" in the US with the salaries you get over there.
The are asking R302/m over here based on exchange rate which is
expensive because salaries are much lower. Adobe killed my Elements 13
which I was unable to have re-activated so I am back to Elements 10 with
a bit DXO11 if needed. No danger of AI sneaking in there!

Alan C

On 13/11/2026 01:32, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Nothing wrong with Adobe. It’s the bedrock support for the entire graphics and design industry. I use the Adobe photo package every day and it gets better with each iteration. I think I’m paying about $10 a month, not a big deal,  a bargain in fact.
Paul

On Nov 12, 2026, at 1:42 PM, Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:

ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated.

What are the alternatives? I'd rather  Jump from the roof than surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee...

Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish photos anymore.

Any advice?

Ralf

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Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

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It may be a "bargain" in the US with the salaries you get over there. The are asking R302/m over here based on exchange rate which is expensive because salaries are much lower. Adobe killed my Elements 13 which I was unable to have re-activated so I am back to Elements 10 with a bit DXO11 if needed. No danger of AI sneaking in there! Alan C On 13/11/2026 01:32, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Nothing wrong with Adobe. It’s the bedrock support for the entire graphics and design industry. I use the Adobe photo package every day and it gets better with each iteration. I think I’m paying about $10 a month, not a big deal, a bargain in fact. > Paul > >> On Nov 12, 2026, at 1:42 PM, Ralf R Radermacher <pdml@uebra.de> wrote: >> >> ON1 have just released version 2027 and I' geting still more frustrated. Even more unnessecary AI, fake skies, and more complex and complicated. >> >> What are the alternatives? I'd rather Jump from the roof than surrender to Adobe's ransomware. I still own DxO and am not really thrilled to fork out over 400 € for the current version. Darktable looks like the proverbial horse designed by a committee... >> >> Maybe this is a passing phase of frustration, but I hardly publish photos anymore. >> >> Any advice? >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany >> Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com