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Re: OT: Photo Forensics

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Ken Waller
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 5:06 PM

Interesting subject Dan.

In my last 18 paid working years I was an expert witness for Ford. During that time we converted from film to digital photography.
With film we had to keep the negatives for proof that the images we testified to were real. With digital we kept the original memory cards. I was aware then of efforts to fool proof digital images but that was still in its infancy.
The truthfulness of my images, both film and digital boiled down to my swearing that the images I presented were a true and honest representation of the subject as I saw it when photographed. Never had any of my images, presented at trial, questioned.

-----Original Message-----

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" danmatyola@gmail.com
Sent: Feb 15, 2021 10:50 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Photo Forensics

I thought that some here might find this book (which I received as a
Valentine's Day present) of interest.

I met Hany Farid when he gave a talk and demonstration at Dartmouth during
my 45th class reunion.  He is an expert in the field, and has a natural
ability to make complex subjects comprehensible.

Photo Forensics (The MIT Press) Paperback – February 26, 2019
by Hany Farid  (Author)

The first comprehensive and detailed presentation of techniques for
authenticating digital images.

Photographs have been doctored since photography was invented. Dictators
have erased people from photographs and from history. Politicians have
manipulated photos for short-term political gain. Altering photographs in
the predigital era required time-consuming darkroom work. Today, powerful
and low-cost digital technology makes it relatively easy to alter digital
images, and the resulting fakes are difficult to detect. The field of photo
forensics—pioneered in Hany Farid's lab at Dartmouth College—restores some
trust to photography. In this book, Farid describes techniques that can be
used to authenticate photos. He provides the intuition and background as
well as the mathematical and algorithmic details needed to understand,
implement, and utilize a variety of photo forensic techniques.

Farid traces the entire imaging pipeline. He begins with the physics and
geometry of the interaction of light with the physical world, proceeds
through the way light passes through a camera lens, the conversion of light
to pixel values in the electronic sensor, the packaging of the pixel values
into a digital image file, and the pixel-level artifacts introduced by
photo-editing software. Modeling the path of light during image creation
reveals physical, geometric, and statistical regularities that are
disrupted during the creation of a fake. Various forensic techniques
exploit these irregularities to detect traces of tampering. A chapter of
case studies examines the authenticity of viral video and famously
questionable photographs including “Golden Eagle Snatches Kid” and the Lee
Harvey Oswald backyard photo.

Dan Matyola

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Interesting subject Dan. In my last 18 paid working years I was an expert witness for Ford. During that time we converted from film to digital photography. With film we had to keep the negatives for proof that the images we testified to were real. With digital we kept the original memory cards. I was aware then of efforts to fool proof digital images but that was still in its infancy. The truthfulness of my images, both film and digital boiled down to my swearing that the images I presented were a true and honest representation of the subject as I saw it when photographed. Never had any of my images, presented at trial, questioned. -----Original Message----- >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmatyola@gmail.com> >Sent: Feb 15, 2021 10:50 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >Subject: OT: Photo Forensics > >I thought that some here might find this book (which I received as a >Valentine's Day present) of interest. > >I met Hany Farid when he gave a talk and demonstration at Dartmouth during >my 45th class reunion. He is an expert in the field, and has a natural >ability to make complex subjects comprehensible. > >Photo Forensics (The MIT Press) Paperback – February 26, 2019 >by Hany Farid (Author) > >*The first comprehensive and detailed presentation of techniques for >authenticating digital images.* > >Photographs have been doctored since photography was invented. Dictators >have erased people from photographs and from history. Politicians have >manipulated photos for short-term political gain. Altering photographs in >the predigital era required time-consuming darkroom work. Today, powerful >and low-cost digital technology makes it relatively easy to alter digital >images, and the resulting fakes are difficult to detect. The field of photo >forensics—pioneered in Hany Farid's lab at Dartmouth College—restores some >trust to photography. In this book, Farid describes techniques that can be >used to authenticate photos. He provides the intuition and background as >well as the mathematical and algorithmic details needed to understand, >implement, and utilize a variety of photo forensic techniques. > >Farid traces the entire imaging pipeline. He begins with the physics and >geometry of the interaction of light with the physical world, proceeds >through the way light passes through a camera lens, the conversion of light >to pixel values in the electronic sensor, the packaging of the pixel values >into a digital image file, and the pixel-level artifacts introduced by >photo-editing software. Modeling the path of light during image creation >reveals physical, geometric, and statistical regularities that are >disrupted during the creation of a fake. Various forensic techniques >exploit these irregularities to detect traces of tampering. A chapter of >case studies examines the authenticity of viral video and famously >questionable photographs including “Golden Eagle Snatches Kid” and the Lee >Harvey Oswald backyard photo. > >Dan Matyola >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DJ
Daniel J. Matyola
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 6:05 PM

Ken:
I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the past
46 years.  The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether
the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a
fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted at
the time in question.

Dan Matyola
Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

Ken: I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the past 46 years. The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted at the time in question. Dan Matyola Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
J
John
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 9:25 PM

What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the back
of each one explaining what they were about?

On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Ken:
I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the past
46 years.  The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether
the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a
fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted at
the time in question.

Dan Matyola
Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

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Religion - Answers we must never question.

What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what they were about? On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Ken: > I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the past > 46 years. The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether > the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a > fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted at > the time in question. > > Dan Matyola > Dan Matyola > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
DJ
Daniel J. Matyola
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 10:16 PM

I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation .
Judges like things plain and simple.  Any markings, on the front or the
back would be done by the witness on the stand.

Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the
back
of each one explaining what they were about?

On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Ken:
I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the

past

46 years.  The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether
the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a
fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted

at

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

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I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation . Judges like things plain and simple. Any markings, on the front or the back would be done by the witness on the stand. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the > back > of each one explaining what they were about? > > On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Ken: > > I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the > past > > 46 years. The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether > > the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a > > fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted > at > > the time in question. > > > > Dan Matyola > > Dan Matyola > > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > > <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
J
John
Tue, Feb 16, 2021 3:37 AM

https://youtu.be/zPx2t7xoF1k?t=303

On 2/15/2021 17:16:25, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation .
Judges like things plain and simple.  Any markings, on the front or the
back would be done by the witness on the stand.

Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the
back
of each one explaining what they were about?

On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Ken:
I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the

past

46 years.  The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether
the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a
fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted

at

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

https://youtu.be/zPx2t7xoF1k?t=303 On 2/15/2021 17:16:25, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation . > Judges like things plain and simple. Any markings, on the front or the > back would be done by the witness on the stand. > > Dan Matyola > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > >> What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on the >> back >> of each one explaining what they were about? >> >> On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> Ken: >>> I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the >> past >>> 46 years. The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness (whether >>> the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph is a >>> fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person depicted >> at >>> the time in question. >>> >>> Dan Matyola >>> Dan Matyola >>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery >>> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* >> >> >> -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
DJ
Daniel J. Matyola
Tue, Feb 16, 2021 2:32 PM

That's one of those songs that works a lot better if you are stoned.

"What do they say at a Grateful Dead concert when the pot runs out?  This
music sucks!"

Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:40 PM John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

https://youtu.be/zPx2t7xoF1k?t=303

On 2/15/2021 17:16:25, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation .
Judges like things plain and simple.  Any markings, on the front or the
back would be done by the witness on the stand.

Dan Matyola
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on

the

back
of each one explaining what they were about?

On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Ken:
I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the

past

46 years.  The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness

(whether

the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph

is a

fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person

depicted

at

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

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That's one of those songs that works a lot better if you are stoned. "What do they say at a Grateful Dead concert when the pot runs out? This music sucks!" Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:40 PM John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > https://youtu.be/zPx2t7xoF1k?t=303 > > On 2/15/2021 17:16:25, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I did mostly non jury trials: General Equity and business litigation . > > Judges like things plain and simple. Any markings, on the front or the > > back would be done by the witness on the stand. > > > > Dan Matyola > > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > > <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:26 PM John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> What? No color glossy photos with circles & arrows and a paragraph on > the > >> back > >> of each one explaining what they were about? > >> > >> On 2/15/2021 13:05:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >>> Ken: > >>> I have admitted photographs into evidence at trial many times over the > >> past > >>> 46 years. The legal standard, as you stated is that the witness > (whether > >>> the photographer or another person) must testify that the photograph > is a > >>> fair and accurate representation of the scene, object or person > depicted > >> at > >>> the time in question. > >>> > >>> Dan Matyola > >>> Dan Matyola > >>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > >>> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >