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mike wilson
Sun, Jun 23, 2024 7:48 PM

PEF.  Because Adobe.

On 23/06/2024 16:46 BST Paul Sorenson pentax1941@studio1941.com wrote:

Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives
you better results or is a better choice than the other?

PEF. Because Adobe. > On 23/06/2024 16:46 BST Paul Sorenson <pentax1941@studio1941.com> wrote: > > > Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? >
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Henk Terhell
Sun, Jun 23, 2024 8:33 PM

That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot
of JPEG and TIFF.
My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG.

Henk

Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Always DNG, never tried PEF.
No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF.

The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was
the first to offer DNG.

Ralf

That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of JPEG and TIFF. My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. Henk Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: > Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: >> Always DNG, never tried PEF. >> No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. > > The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was > the first to offer DNG. > > Ralf >
JS
John Sessoms
Sun, Jun 23, 2024 10:15 PM

DNG

On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives
you better results or is a better choice than the other?

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DNG On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? > > -p > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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John Sessoms
Sun, Jun 23, 2024 10:34 PM

The *ist-D allowed you to save as PEF, TIF or JPG.

Herbert Kepler recommended TIF in his Popular Photography column, so
that's what I shot in 2004.

IIRC, the TIF was available in small, medium & large, which I didn't
understand at the time. After I got home in 2005 & could buy more CF
cards fairly easily, I switched to PEF.

Continued to shoot PEF when I finally got a K10D. Began shooting DNG
files late in 2012 when I got a K20D.

Occasionally I would shoot JPEG (when I would somehow gum up the
settings) or RAW+JPEG

With the K-3 & K-1 I've shot exclusively DNG.

With the VueScan software, I can also save files from my scanners as DNG.

On 6/23/2024 3:25 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Always DNG, never tried PEF.
No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF.

The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the
first to offer DNG.

Ralf

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The *ist-D allowed you to save as PEF, TIF or JPG. Herbert Kepler recommended TIF in his Popular Photography column, so that's what I shot in 2004. IIRC, the TIF was available in small, medium & large, which I didn't understand at the time. After I got home in 2005 & could buy more CF cards fairly easily, I switched to PEF. Continued to shoot PEF when I finally got a K10D. Began shooting DNG files late in 2012 when I got a K20D. Occasionally I would shoot JPEG (when I would somehow gum up the settings) or RAW+JPEG With the K-3 & K-1 I've shot exclusively DNG. With the VueScan software, I can also save files from my scanners as DNG. On 6/23/2024 3:25 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: >> Always DNG, never tried PEF. >> No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. > > The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the > first to offer DNG. > > Ralf > -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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Matthew Hunt
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 1:31 AM

I shoot PEF, and convert to DNG on import with Lightroom ("Copy as DNG").

The reason I do this is that when Lightroom does the conversion, it embeds
a checksum that can later be used with "Library > Validate DNG Files" to
verify that no disk corruption has occurred. At least at the time I decided
to do things this way, DNG as shot by my cameras did not embed this
checksum.

Once a month, I select all the photos in my catalog and run the Validate
task. (Knock on wood, it has never found an error so far.)

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:46 AM Paul Sorenson pentax1941@studio1941.com
wrote:

Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives
you better results or is a better choice than the other?

-p

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I shoot PEF, and convert to DNG on import with Lightroom ("Copy as DNG"). The reason I do this is that when Lightroom does the conversion, it embeds a checksum that can later be used with "Library > Validate DNG Files" to verify that no disk corruption has occurred. At least at the time I decided to do things this way, DNG as shot by my cameras did not embed this checksum. Once a month, I select all the photos in my catalog and run the Validate task. (Knock on wood, it has never found an error so far.) On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:46 AM Paul Sorenson <pentax1941@studio1941.com> wrote: > Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? > > -p > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Alan C
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 2:18 AM

Yes. My K110D only offers PEF. When I occasionally use it, I convert to
DNG which is the universal standard.

Alan C

On 23-Jun-24 10:33 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a
lot of JPEG and TIFF.
My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG.

Henk

Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Always DNG, never tried PEF.
No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF.

The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was
the first to offer DNG.

Ralf

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Yes. My K110D only offers PEF. When I occasionally use it, I convert to DNG which is the universal standard. Alan C On 23-Jun-24 10:33 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: > That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a > lot of JPEG and TIFF. > My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. > > Henk > > Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: >> Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: >>> Always DNG, never tried PEF. >>> No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. >> >> The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was >> the first to offer DNG. >> >> Ralf >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions.
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Paul Sorenson
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 3:59 AM

Thanks everyone, for your responses.  The question came up in another
forum which has few Pentax users so I thought I'd poll the group of
"real" Pentax users.  With few exceptions, DNG has been my format of
choice since my DS days as well.

-p

On 6/23/2024 10:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives
you better results or is a better choice than the other?

-p

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Thanks everyone, for your responses.  The question came up in another forum which has few Pentax users so I thought I'd poll the group of "real" Pentax users.  With few exceptions, DNG has been my format of choice since my DS days as well. -p On 6/23/2024 10:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? > > -p > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. >
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John Francis
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 5:39 AM

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 10:33:10PM +0200, Henk Terhell wrote:

That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of
JPEG and TIFF.
My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG.

That was exactly the course I took  (well, JPEG+DNG).
I continued doing this when I moved on to a K5.
(And nowadays I'm shooting JPEG+ORF)

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 10:33:10PM +0200, Henk Terhell wrote: > That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of > JPEG and TIFF. > My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. That was exactly the course I took (well, JPEG+DNG). I continued doing this when I moved on to a K5. (And nowadays I'm shooting JPEG+ORF)
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pkn291262@gmail.com
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 7:55 AM

I shoot DNG - never did a comparison so do not know which is better. Just assumed it is the same.
Patrick

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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Quick survey

Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs?  Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other?

-p

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I shoot DNG - never did a comparison so do not know which is better. Just assumed it is the same. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sorenson <pentax1941@studio1941.com> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 5:47 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Quick survey Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Reinhard Sy
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 4:22 PM

I use PEF all the time never compared it with DNG.
Only my First isDs shots are jpg.
Cheers Reinhard

I use PEF all the time never compared it with DNG. Only my First isDs shots are jpg. Cheers Reinhard