In the background there's something "black" sitting on the counter. It's probably a toaster & was actually chrome. I think y'all could get to color rendition closer if you chose something in the black area (not the reflected flash) and set that as the neutral tone. The negative is Kodak SAFETY FILM with the number 12518 printed along the edge. I've been searching to see if I can identify the film from that. No luck so far. SWAG: IF it was 1968, the film might be Kodacolor X in 127 or 126 format. That was Kodak's color negative film from 1963-1975 But I still think the major color correction (for fading & shift) should be available during the scan. On 10/1/2021 17:39:58, ann sanfedele wrote: > OK I played with the one John Coyle did and reversed it to the correct > orientation, worked on getting the aqua which gave the shirts they were all wearing > a bit more believable a color.. but working with a print screen low res image I > couldn't do much .. > > I work kinda free hand  don't record every tweak.. just go back and forth until > I see what I guessed would be closest to the original color. > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-pPnjDZK/A > > IT is fun doing this > > ann > > On 10/1/2021 5:06 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> YEah I mentioned powder blue or aqua  before I read this.. which you have not >> seen yet :-) >> makes me ant to fiddle  again .. with the one JOhn C did I think >> >> >> >> On 10/1/2021 4:17 PM, Gonz wrote: >>> More like "aquaish" >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 3:16 PM Gonz<rgonzomatic@gmail.com>  wrote: >>>> The stairs/wall were a light shade of blue.  The year was approximately 1968. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM ann sanfedele<annsan@nyc.rr.com>  wrote: >>>>> ok Gonz so please do tell us (or at least me, maybe no one else cares) >>>>> when the photo was taken and what color were the walls IRL ? >>>>> the photo was taken with a flash, yes? >>>>> >>>>> ann >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/1/2021 3:13 PM, Gonz wrote: >>>>>> My scanner is an epson 4990. I guess I need to figure out how to get a >>>>>> better scan first!  I did try to use some of the "advanced" features, >>>>>> but obviously too low rez. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:37 AM<jcoyle@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Gonz - from your low-res Flickr image, I used the following process in >>>>>>> PS: >>>>>>> Auto Tone >>>>>>> Auto Colour >>>>>>> Auto Contrast >>>>>>> Image Adjustments: >>>>>>> Brightness reduced >>>>>>> Contrast +10% >>>>>>> Shadows/Highlights: >>>>>>> Mid-Tones +15% >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then resized it to 300dpi >>>>>>> The result is at >>>>>>> www.epraxisdata.com/Img002_adjusted.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> not brilliant, but perhaps it would work better on a decent scan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John in Brisbane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.

Up at the top of the stairs you can see door frames, and they appear to be painted white. They might serve as a "neutral color" to allow you to correct the rest of the colors. On 10/3/2021 19:24:30, Gonz wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for taking a shot at it! That's probably really close. The > stair color was "aqua". I don't know if anything there was gray. But > your skin tones look pretty spot on. > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:23 PM Mark C <pdml-mark@charter.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Gonz - >> >> I pulled your photo into Photoshop CS6, cropped out the margins and then >> applied auto colors. After that, slightly darkened the midtones in >> levels. The result: >> >> https://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/old-photo-touchup?blog=9 >> >> It's hard to judge the colors - skin tones, the wooden chair back, the >> wooden picture frames look OK and the ceiling in the upper right is >> white, which seems logical. If there was something in the image that I >> knew was gray I'd open levels and click on it with the midtone >> eyedropper. That usually helps restore color balance. >> >> I inherited a bunch of very old faded prints a few years ago, and it was >> amaze how much info would pop out of them just using auto color. >> >> Mark >> >> On 9/30/2021 11:52 AM, Gonz wrote: >>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>> >>> -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.

When I was trying to restore old photos a while back there were several where it looked like one color faded much more severely than the others which would throw off the whole color balance. The only solution as to manually boost the color that was out of wack. But I was working with prints, not negatives. Have fun! On 10/3/2021 7:24 PM, Gonz wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for taking a shot at it! That's probably really close. The > stair color was "aqua". I don't know if anything there was gray. But > your skin tones look pretty spot on. > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:23 PM Mark C <pdml-mark@charter.net> wrote: >> Hi Gonz - >> >> I pulled your photo into Photoshop CS6, cropped out the margins and then >> applied auto colors. After that, slightly darkened the midtones in >> levels. The result: >> >> https://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/old-photo-touchup?blog=9 >> >> It's hard to judge the colors - skin tones, the wooden chair back, the >> wooden picture frames look OK and the ceiling in the upper right is >> white, which seems logical. If there was something in the image that I >> knew was gray I'd open levels and click on it with the midtone >> eyedropper. That usually helps restore color balance. >> >> I inherited a bunch of very old faded prints a few years ago, and it was >> amaze how much info would pop out of them just using auto color. >> >> Mark >> >> On 9/30/2021 11:52 AM, Gonz wrote: >>> Scanned an old negative. Played around with the usual knobs, but cant >>> seem to get it to look decent. There is not enough dynamic range here >>> it seems. I've seen articles somewhere where they make old photos >>> like this pop out almost to new. How does this work? >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51535604096/in/dateposted/ >>> >>> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > >

On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:32:51PM -0400, John wrote: > I think it's something you should be able to fix during the scan. > > I use Vuescan. I have version 9 x64 (9.6.24) and it has tools to do the > color correction during the scan. > > https://www.hamrick.com/ > > I highly recommend it. Once you pay for it, you get "free" updates for life > (I'm guessing HIS lifetime). I suspect it's whichever of his and your lifetimes runs out first ... (unless you've got some way of requesting updates from beyond the grave)

> On Oct 3, 2021, at 10:17 PM, John Francis <johnf@panix.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:32:51PM -0400, John wrote: >> I think it's something you should be able to fix during the scan. >> >> I use Vuescan. I have version 9 x64 (9.6.24) and it has tools to do the >> color correction during the scan. >> >> https://www.hamrick.com/ >> >> I highly recommend it. Once you pay for it, you get "free" updates for life >> (I'm guessing HIS lifetime). > > I suspect it's whichever of his and your lifetimes runs out first ... > (unless you've got some way of requesting updates from beyond the grave) There’s an RFC for TCP via Avian carrier https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1149 Why not TCPIP via Ouija board? -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com

On 10/4/2021 01:17:00, John Francis wrote: > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:32:51PM -0400, John wrote: >> I think it's something you should be able to fix during the scan. >> >> I use Vuescan. I have version 9 x64 (9.6.24) and it has tools to do the >> color correction during the scan. >> >> https://www.hamrick.com/ >> >> I highly recommend it. Once you pay for it, you get "free" updates for life >> (I'm guessing HIS lifetime). > > I suspect it's whichever of his and your lifetimes runs out first ... > (unless you've got some way of requesting updates from beyond the grave) If I outlive him it might be a problem for me, otherwise it's someone else's problem. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.

Nice spec! John in Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 4:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: How do I correct an old image like this? > On Oct 3, 2021, at 10:17 PM, John Francis <johnf@panix.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:32:51PM -0400, John wrote: >> I think it's something you should be able to fix during the scan. >> >> I use Vuescan. I have version 9 x64 (9.6.24) and it has tools to do >> the color correction during the scan. >> >> https://www.hamrick.com/ >> >> I highly recommend it. Once you pay for it, you get "free" updates >> for life (I'm guessing HIS lifetime). > > I suspect it's whichever of his and your lifetimes runs out first ... > (unless you've got some way of requesting updates from beyond the > grave) There’s an RFC for TCP via Avian carrier https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1149 Why not TCPIP via Ouija board? -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.