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Larry Colen
Thu, Aug 3, 2023 10:33 PM
Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
identical externally.
Cool! One thing I don't have is enough things to spend my time on.
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> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:52 PM, Mark Roberts <postmaster@robertstech.com> wrote:
>
> mike wilson wrote:
>
>> Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
>> Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
>> on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
>> in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
>> identical externally.
>
> If you're into jet plane geekery you might enjoy this fellow's stuff
> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQbBfie3ZA
Cool! One thing I don't have is enough things to spend my time on.
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Mark Roberts
Thu, Aug 3, 2023 10:49 PM
BTW, regarding the original set of photographs (nice stuff) that
started this thread: I will never be able to look at an F4 Phantom
without thinking of Dan Matyola.
(Also, I think the F100 Super Saber has to be the ugliest jet fighter
ever.)
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Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
BTW, regarding the original set of photographs (nice stuff) that
started this thread: I will never be able to look at an F4 Phantom
without thinking of Dan Matyola.
(Also, I think the F100 Super Saber has to be the ugliest jet fighter
ever.)
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Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
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Steve Cottrell
Thu, Aug 3, 2023 10:52 PM
Yout took the words straight outa my mouth Roberts.
RIP Dan.
Cot
On 3 Aug 2023, at 23:49, Mark Roberts postmaster@robertstech.com wrote:
BTW, regarding the original set of photographs (nice stuff) that
started this thread: I will never be able to look at an F4 Phantom
without thinking of Dan Matyola.
Yout took the words straight outa my mouth Roberts.
RIP Dan.
Cot
> On 3 Aug 2023, at 23:49, Mark Roberts <postmaster@robertstech.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, regarding the original set of photographs (nice stuff) that
> started this thread: I will never be able to look at an F4 Phantom
> without thinking of Dan Matyola.
LC
Larry Colen
Fri, Aug 4, 2023 4:50 AM
On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 PM, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail. Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost identical externally.
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail. Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost identical externally.
There was a third way to tell, do a google search on "March Air Museum MIG23"
https://www.marchfield.org/aircraft/fighter/mig-23bn-flogger-mikoyan-gurevich/
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mike wilson
Fri, Aug 4, 2023 5:43 AM
On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 PM, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail. Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost identical externally.
Like the man in orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected. But no fair modifying a 23 with most of the bits of a 27 and still calling it a 23.
> On 04/08/2023 05:50 Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> > Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail. Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost identical externally.
>
> There was a third way to tell, do a google search on "March Air Museum MIG23"
>
> https://www.marchfield.org/aircraft/fighter/mig-23bn-flogger-mikoyan-gurevich/
>
Like the man in orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected. But no fair modifying a 23 with most of the bits of a 27 and still calling it a 23.
MW
mike wilson
Fri, Aug 4, 2023 6:06 AM
Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
identical externally.
> On 03/08/2023 22:52 Mark Roberts <postmaster@robertstech.com> wrote:
>
>
> mike wilson wrote:
>
> >Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
> >Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
> >on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
> >in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
> >identical externally.
>
> If you're into jet plane geekery you might enjoy this fellow's stuff
> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQbBfie3ZA
That was entertaining...
LC
Larry Colen
Fri, Aug 4, 2023 7:02 AM
Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
identical externally.
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 11:06 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 03/08/2023 22:52 Mark Roberts <postmaster@robertstech.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Two ways On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.
>>> Not visible in your pic. The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe
>>> on the 27, which does seem to be the case. There is also a slight difference
>>> in the air intakes, not discernable here. Otherwise, they are almost
>>> identical externally.
>>
>> If you're into jet plane geekery you might enjoy this fellow's stuff
>> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQbBfie3ZA
>
> That was entertaining...
Indeed
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