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Re: GESO British car show

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Ken Waller
Wed, Sep 29, 2021 10:09 PM

Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.

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On Sep 29, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Amazing, what almost 60 years of engineering progress can produce.

 
Probably closer to 50, but yes. The Mazda Mx5/Miata/Eunos is considered a rather slow car in performance circles, but if you look at the specifications, it’s not that far off from a V-8 powered Sunbeam Tiger. A lot of the legendary performance cars would be “fair to middlin” by today’s standards.
 
In photography where performance doesn’t matter except for when it does, the things today’s cameras can do are mind boggling compared to the film era. I’ve taken shots at upwards of ISO 10,000 that have less noise than Tri-X had grain. Very few of my astro-landscape photos would have even been possible not that long ago. I didn’t really have the budget for lenses until fairly recently, but I suspect that what we consider “OK performance” in a modern lens would have blown people out of the water not that many decades ago.
 
 

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Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development. Ken Waller -----Original Message----- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Sep 29, 2021 5:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO British car show     > On Sep 29, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Amazing, what almost 60 years of engineering progress can produce.   Probably closer to 50, but yes. The Mazda Mx5/Miata/Eunos is considered a rather slow car in performance circles, but if you look at the specifications, it’s not that far off from a V-8 powered Sunbeam Tiger. A lot of the legendary performance cars would be “fair to middlin” by today’s standards.   In photography where performance doesn’t matter except for when it does, the things today’s cameras can do are mind boggling compared to the film era. I’ve taken shots at upwards of ISO 10,000 that have less noise than Tri-X had grain. Very few of my astro-landscape photos would have even been possible not that long ago. I didn’t really have the budget for lenses until fairly recently, but I suspect that what we consider “OK performance” in a modern lens would have blown people out of the water not that many decades ago.     -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com     -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.  
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Larry Colen
Wed, Sep 29, 2021 10:42 PM

On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:

Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.

Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.

It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.

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Larry Colen
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> On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller <kwaller@peoplepc.com> wrote: > > Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development. Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management. It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often. -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com
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Paul Stenquist
Wed, Sep 29, 2021 11:19 PM

The E-Type was a superb handling car. I drove a few at Lime Rock when I worked for Jag’s ad agency. It was the early ‘80d and the E-Types were out of production but Jaguar still liked to roll out a few for company events. They were excellent when prepped by Jag engineers and fitted with fresh dampers. The front dampers in these relatively heavy cars would give up in 10,000 miles if the car was driven aggressively. But in fine tune the car was excellent. It could scoot through the two tight turns at the end if the straight with minimal guidance. Fabulous machines, especially when equipped with the 4.2- liter XK six. The twelve cylinder of the ‘70s made it nose heavy and with version one of L-Jetrinic fuel injection, rather sluggish at the low end,

Paul

On Sep 29, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:



On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:

Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.

Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.

It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.

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Larry Colen
lrc@red4est.com

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The E-Type was a superb handling car. I drove a few at Lime Rock when I worked for Jag’s ad agency. It was the early ‘80d and the E-Types were out of production but Jaguar still liked to roll out a few for company events. They were excellent when prepped by Jag engineers and fitted with fresh dampers. The front dampers in these relatively heavy cars would give up in 10,000 miles if the car was driven aggressively. But in fine tune the car was excellent. It could scoot through the two tight turns at the end if the straight with minimal guidance. Fabulous machines, especially when equipped with the 4.2- liter XK six. The twelve cylinder of the ‘70s made it nose heavy and with version one of L-Jetrinic fuel injection, rather sluggish at the low end, Paul > On Sep 29, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > >  > >> On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller <kwaller@peoplepc.com> wrote: >> >> Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development. > > Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management. > > It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often. > > > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.