And then there are bridges over water that carry both a train and a roadway ... -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: OTPESO, train trestle from the Santa Ana River Trail Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 15:04:12 -0400 From: ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> To: lrc@red4est.com Alan and larry - trestle is what I've always heard them called .. I've been over one in particular many times on a local commuter rail.. it doesnt go over water, just a valley.. On 8/25/2025 2:07 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: > Bridge...<https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/54743222313/in/album-72177720328579066/lightbox/> > It's possible that trestle is a more specific type of bridge, but I've usually heard the term used in conjunction with trains. It could just be that that's how they were constructed at home > > On August 25, 2025 10:59:16 AM PDT, Alan Cole<wisselstroom8@gmail.com> wrote: >> Trestle? Alan C. >> >> >>

It seems that I should have said "bridge" or even "viaduct". I noticed a sign by the trail about the bridge but didn't stop to photograph it. It only took a moment to actually google Riverside Train Bridge, and it turns out to be rather historical. I may have to put a little effort into some more serious photography of it. https://www.raincrossgazette.com/spanning-history-riversides-iconic-1904-railroad-bridge/ About the URL, note that raincross is the name of the local symbol for Riverside: https://www.riversideca.gov/visiting-aboutriv.asp About the Raincross Symbol The unique City Raincross Symbol is derived from combining a replica of the mass bell used by Father Junipero Serra, missionary priest and founder of the California Missions, and the cross to which the Navajo and Central American Indians prayed for rain. Called the "Raincross" symbol, it was designed for the Mission Inn and given to the city by Frank Miller. The Raincross symbol has been identified with Riverside since 1907. Variations of the symbol are used extensively throughout Riverside in architecture, street signs and lighting standards, and is used on the City flag. Playing on the nostalgia for the state's Spanish heritage and the romanticized images of the missions and the Indians portrayed by Helen Hunt Jackson in her novels, Miller, Matthew Gage, the Sunkist Cooperative, the Santa Fe Railroad and other city boosters worked together to market Riverside as a Spanish Mediterranean Mecca. Riverside's climate and landscapes continue to evoke this Mediterranean paradise. There is a strong community support for historic preservation for a city that reveres its past and has built on that firm foundation. On 2025-08-25 12:28, ann sanfedele wrote: > And then there are bridges over water that carry both a train and a > roadway ... > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: OTPESO, train trestle from the Santa Ana River Trail > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 15:04:12 -0400 > From: ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> > To: lrc@red4est.com > > > > Alan and larry - > trestle is what I've always heard them called .. I've been over one in > particular many times on a local commuter rail.. it doesnt go over > water, just a valley.. > > On 8/25/2025 2:07 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >> Bridge...<https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/54743222313/in/album-72177720328579066/lightbox/> >> It's possible that trestle is a more specific type of bridge, but >> I've usually heard the term used in conjunction with trains. It could >> just be that that's how they were constructed at home >> >> On August 25, 2025 10:59:16 AM PDT, Alan Cole<wisselstroom8@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Trestle? Alan C. >>> >>> >>> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Larry Colen LRC@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc

They should have called it Raincross Traincross. > On 25 Aug 2025, at 20:36, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > It seems that I should have said "bridge" or even "viaduct". > > I noticed a sign by the trail about the bridge but didn't stop to photograph it. > > It only took a moment to actually google Riverside Train Bridge, and it turns out to be rather historical. I may have to put a little effort into some more serious photography of it. > > https://www.raincrossgazette.com/spanning-history-riversides-iconic-1904-railroad-bridge/ > > About the URL, note that raincross is the name of the local symbol for Riverside: > > https://www.riversideca.gov/visiting-aboutriv.asp > >

I googled "What is the difference between a trestle and a bridge: > A bridge is a structure that connects two or more points allowing access > across railways, rivers, streams, ravenes, etc., whereas a trestle is a > framework structure that some long bridges are built upon. That framework > consists of vertical, slanted and cross peices that are used to support > the bridge. > > Trestles are similar in nature to viaducts except for the fact that > viaducts consists of a number of short concrete or masonry spans > supported by piers or towers and not what was described in the previous > paragraph. > > A bridge with a trestle is technically referred to a "trestle bridge," > but it's usually referred to simply as trestle! So now we know; a "trestle" is a type of structure used for some bridges. 😏 On 8/25/2025 3:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > It seems that I should have said "bridge" or even "viaduct". > > I noticed a sign by the trail about the bridge but didn't stop to > photograph it. > > It only took a moment to actually google Riverside Train Bridge, and it > turns out to be rather historical. I may have to put a little effort > into some more serious photography of it. > > https://www.raincrossgazette.com/spanning-history-riversides-iconic-1904-railroad-bridge/ > > About the URL, note that raincross is the name of the local symbol for > Riverside: > > https://www.riversideca.gov/visiting-aboutriv.asp > > About the Raincross Symbol > The unique City Raincross Symbol is derived from combining a replica of > the mass bell used by Father Junipero Serra, missionary priest and > founder of the California Missions, and the cross to which the Navajo > and Central American Indians prayed for rain. Called the "Raincross" > symbol, it was designed for the Mission Inn and given to the city by > Frank Miller. The Raincross symbol has been identified with Riverside > since 1907. Variations of the symbol are used extensively throughout > Riverside in architecture, street signs and lighting standards, and is > used on the City flag. > > Playing on the nostalgia for the state's Spanish heritage and the > romanticized images of the missions and the Indians portrayed by Helen > Hunt Jackson in her novels, Miller, Matthew Gage, the Sunkist > Cooperative, the Santa Fe Railroad and other city boosters worked > together to market Riverside as a Spanish Mediterranean Mecca. > Riverside's climate and landscapes continue to evoke this Mediterranean > paradise. There is a strong community support for historic preservation > for a city that reveres its past and has built on that firm foundation. > > > On 2025-08-25 12:28, ann sanfedele wrote: >> And then there are bridges over water that carry both a train and a >> roadway ... >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject:     Re: OTPESO, train trestle from the Santa Ana River Trail >> Date:     Mon, 25 Aug 2025 15:04:12 -0400 >> From:     ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> >> To:     lrc@red4est.com >> >> >> >> Alan and larry - >> trestle is what I've always heard them called .. I've been over one in >> particular many times on a local commuter rail.. it doesnt go over >> water, just a valley.. >> >> On 8/25/2025 2:07 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >>> Bridge...<https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/54743222313/in/album-72177720328579066/lightbox/>   It's possible that trestle is a more specific type of bridge, but I've usually heard the term used in conjunction with trains.  It could just be that that's how they were constructed at home >>> >>> On August 25, 2025 10:59:16 AM PDT, Alan >>> Cole<wisselstroom8@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Trestle?  Alan C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com