Adobe Brouhaha
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing:
4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us.
4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content.
I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook.
Thoughts?
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It calls to mind an old gem from the PDML quotations list (I forget what year): "Any harm I can do Adobe will be done with a song in my heart" - Mike Wilson
Jun 6, 2024 1:59:19 PM Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com:
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing:
4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us.
4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content.
I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook.
Thoughts?
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Larry Colen
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These squabbles don’t bother me. PhotoShop is my lifeblood, and it has been for 25 years. I use the cloud version for about ten bucks a month, and I don’t store anything on Adobe servers. I use my own storage and Dropbox. What’s more, PhotoShop gets better every year. No complaints.
Paul
On Jun 6, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing:
4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us.
4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content.
I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook.
Thoughts?
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Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen:
Thoughts?
Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore.
Ralf
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On June 6, 2024 1:39:28 PM PDT, Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:
Am 06.06.24 um 19:59 schrieb Larry Colen:
Thoughts?
Thank Heavens I have nothing to do with them anymore.
Thoughts? Or adobe?
Ralf
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Am 06.06.24 um 23:13 schrieb lrc@red4est.com:
Thoughts? Or adobe?
Thoughts about Adobe.
Ralf
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Perhaps also legal cover for their AI database.
It doesn't bother me as I never store my pictures on Adobe cloud.
For years I have avoided their subscription model. However, with their
recent progress in software I'm pleased now to have their latest
versions of LR and FP for 10 euro/month .
Henk
Op 2024-06-06 om 19:59 schreef Larry Colen:
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about
this section of Adobe licensing: 4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely
for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software,
you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable,
license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify,
create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the
Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to
our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and
Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos
with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any
Feedback that you provide to us. 4.3 Ownership. As between you and
Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable)
retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable,
you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid
license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your
Content. I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content
with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep
on their servers to other sites like facebook. Thoughts? -- Larry
Colen lrc@red4est.com sent from ret13est
Listen what Tony N. has to say about it.
https://youtu.be/rEbgh-q7RCc?si=KGnWOlpwq2uvDpjN
Henk
Op 2024-06-06 om 19:59 schreef Larry Colen:
Like just about everything else in business "licensing", it sounds like
it's there for a benign purpose, but some evil asshole could find a way
to abuse it with moderate effort.
On 6/6/2024 1:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
There seems to be a lot of sound and fury going around the net about this section of Adobe licensing:
4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us.
4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content.
I read 4.2 as giving Adobe permission to share your content with other services so that you can, for example, post photos you keep on their servers to other sites like facebook.
Thoughts?
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Larry Colen
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