Re: GESO British car show
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
Ken Waller
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On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
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Jaguar positioned the E-Type as the successor to the D-Type race car, not the XKSS, and it featured many upgrades, most notably the independent rear suspension. The most significant shared nature was the subframe/rigid body unit construction. The XKSS was a limited production streetable version of the D-Type. Only 16 copies of the XKSS were built of the original production run of 25. Nine were destroyed in the Borwn’s Lane fire of 1957. It didn’t incorporate any of the advances that later appeared on the E-Type. The XKE name was used only on E-Type cars sold in the United States.
On Sep 30, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
Ken Waller
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On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
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It would have been perfect, if only it had a....
On 30 September 2021 at 17:48 Paul Stenquist pnstenquist@comcast.net wrote:
Jaguar positioned the E-Type as the successor to the D-Type race car, not the XKSS, and it featured many upgrades, most notably the independent rear suspension. The most significant shared nature was the subframe/rigid body unit construction. The XKSS was a limited production streetable version of the D-Type. Only 16 copies of the XKSS were built of the original production run of 25. Nine were destroyed in the Borwn’s Lane fire of 1957. It didn’t incorporate any of the advances that later appeared on the E-Type. The XKE name was used only on E-Type cars sold in the United States.
On Sep 30, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
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Subject: Re: GESO British car showOn Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
At least it didn't have a Lucas interocitor.
On September 30, 2021 4:01:53 PM PDT, mike wilson m.9.wilson@ntlworld.com wrote:
It would have been perfect, if only it had a....
On 30 September 2021 at 17:48 Paul Stenquist pnstenquist@comcast.net wrote:
Jaguar positioned the E-Type as the successor to the D-Type race car, not the XKSS, and it featured many upgrades, most notably the independent rear suspension. The most significant shared nature was the subframe/rigid body unit construction. The XKSS was a limited production streetable version of the D-Type. Only 16 copies of the XKSS were built of the original production run of 25. Nine were destroyed in the Borwn’s Lane fire of 1957. It didn’t incorporate any of the advances that later appeared on the E-Type. The XKE name was used only on E-Type cars sold in the United States.
On Sep 30, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
Ken Waller
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On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
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WTF?
On 9/30/2021 19:01:53, mike wilson wrote:
It would have been perfect, if only it had a....
On 30 September 2021 at 17:48 Paul Stenquist pnstenquist@comcast.net wrote:
Jaguar positioned the E-Type as the successor to the D-Type race car, not the XKSS, and it featured many upgrades, most notably the independent rear suspension. The most significant shared nature was the subframe/rigid body unit construction. The XKSS was a limited production streetable version of the D-Type. Only 16 copies of the XKSS were built of the original production run of 25. Nine were destroyed in the Borwn’s Lane fire of 1957. It didn’t incorporate any of the advances that later appeared on the E-Type. The XKE name was used only on E-Type cars sold in the United States.
On Sep 30, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
Ken Waller
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On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
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The Interocitor is from “This Island Earth”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCMLmm8oLu4
And Lucas electronics have a someone iffy reputation.
As in the 3-position light switch; off, dim and flicker.
On 9/30/2021 19:01:53, mike wilson wrote:
It would have been perfect, if only it had a....
https://youtu.be/MXW0bx_Ooq4
On 30 September 2021 at 17:48 Paul Stenquist pnstenquist@comcast.net wrote:
Jaguar positioned the E-Type as the successor to the D-Type race car, not the XKSS, and it featured many upgrades, most notably the independent rear suspension. The most significant shared nature was the subframe/rigid body unit construction. The XKSS was a limited production streetable version of the D-Type. Only 16 copies of the XKSS were built of the original production run of 25. Nine were destroyed in the Borwn’s Lane fire of 1957. It didn’t incorporate any of the advances that later appeared on the E-Type. The XKE name was used only on E-Type cars sold in the United States.
On Sep 30, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Ken Waller kwaller@peoplepc.com wrote:
Wasn't considering this a debate just a statement of the "facts" as I am aware of.
Ken Waller
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On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Actually the XKE first went on sale in1961, so I'm guessing it's intro was preceded by at least 2 to 3 years for design and development.
Yeah, the e type was a tamed down xkss from 1957, the Honda Odyssey dates from 1994, but yeah, whether we’re talking 40, 50 or 60 years of development, those were a critical few decades, if only for the roles that computers were able to play starting in the 80’s not only in design but in engine and brake management.
It would almost seem as if we are 98% in agreement and vigorously debating a superfluous 2% of the question. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen very often.
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On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 05:59:33PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
The Interocitor is from ???This Island Earth???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCMLmm8oLu4
And Lucas electronics have a someone iffy reputation.
As in the 3-position light switch; off, dim and flicker.
Ah, yes. Joseph Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
Q: Why do the British drink warm beer?
A: Their fridges are made by Lucas.
... and so on ...
Larry,
I own two MGBs and I have this T-shirt:
http://mossmotorsltd.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Lucus-and-Oscar-001.jpg
On 10/3/2021 20:59:33, Larry Colen wrote:
The Interocitor is from “This Island Earth”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCMLmm8oLu4
And Lucas electronics have a someone iffy reputation.
As in the 3-position light switch; off, dim and flicker.
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On Oct 4, 2021, at 1:00 PM, John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:
Larry,
I own two MGBs and I have this T-shirt:
http://mossmotorsltd.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Lucus-and-Oscar-001.jpg
Are they both for driving? Or is one for parts? What years? Roadster or GT?
Getting mine
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/
back on the road has been an exercise in disaster management, and by disaster I mean wildfires 20 years ago when I was waiting for engine parts, a kid crashing into my garage and putting it out of commission for a year, I admit that racing the miata for a few years sidelined my time/energy budget from Jasmine. After working on the Singer, I’m particularly motivated to let the house fall down on it’s own for a little while so I can get the MG back together. With the supercharger I could keep up with miatas down the straights at the track.
It was through the team.net email lists
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo
that I learned the smoke theory of electronics. That electronics work because of magic smoke, and if you let the magic smoke out, the electronics stop working. And just like British cars leak everything else, they often leak smoke.
On 10/3/2021 20:59:33, Larry Colen wrote:
The Interocitor is from “This Island Earth”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCMLmm8oLu4
And Lucas electronics have a someone iffy reputation.
As in the 3-position light switch; off, dim and flicker.
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LOL!
I remember my old MG. Always in the shop, and always a long wait for
parts. Once, the throttle linkage broke, and I drove around for months
with baling wire as a "replacement part" until one arrived from British
Lowland. It was a lot of fun to drive -- when I could.
Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 4:14 PM Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:
Are they both for driving? Or is one for parts?