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collinb@brendemuehl.net
Sun, Jan 15, 2023 5:49 PM

I’ve started putting images on Shutterstock. Learning a lot about what is expected of images to be available. So far about 50% acceptance rate.

Tried Adobe. 100% rejection. Can’t reasonably assess why.

What other agencies would you recommend?

I’ve started putting images on Shutterstock. Learning a lot about what is expected of images to be available. So far about 50% acceptance rate. Tried Adobe. 100% rejection. Can’t reasonably assess why. What other agencies would you recommend?
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ann sanfedele
Sun, Jan 15, 2023 9:22 PM

sadly, acceptance for listing doesn't mean sales..   I  was in ANIMALS
ANIMALS/ EARTH SCENES for years -  sold some photos, but the work
required to satisfy their standards for detail was taxing..  this was
back pre digital.  I'm officially still with them but have not given
them anything in years -  once they started taking digital stuff I didnt
have the equipment to get them up to size demands...

I have a few thousand photos on my smgumug web page - not all are listed
for sale.. but I have sold from it, as recently as last week...

Don't know anything about shutterstock except seeing their watermarks. 
Hope you have some luck with it

ann

On 1/15/2023 12:49 PM, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote:

I’ve started putting images on Shutterstock. Learning a lot about what is expected of images to be available. So far about 50% acceptance rate.

Tried Adobe. 100% rejection. Can’t reasonably assess why.

What other agencies would you recommend?

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sadly, acceptance for listing doesn't mean sales..   I  was in ANIMALS ANIMALS/ EARTH SCENES for years -  sold some photos, but the work required to satisfy their standards for detail was taxing..  this was back pre digital.  I'm officially still with them but have not given them anything in years -  once they started taking digital stuff I didnt have the equipment to get them up to size demands... I have a few thousand photos on my smgumug web page - not all are listed for sale.. but I have sold from it, as recently as last week... Don't know anything about shutterstock except seeing their watermarks.  Hope you have some luck with it ann On 1/15/2023 12:49 PM, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote: > I’ve started putting images on Shutterstock. Learning a lot about what is expected of images to be available. So far about 50% acceptance rate. > > Tried Adobe. 100% rejection. Can’t reasonably assess why. > > What other agencies would you recommend? > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
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Steve Cottrell
Wed, Jan 18, 2023 1:17 PM

I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money.

Cotty

On 15 Jan 2023, at 17:49, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote:

What other agencies would you recommend?

I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money. Cotty On 15 Jan 2023, at 17:49, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote: What other agencies would you recommend?
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collinb@brendemuehl.net
Wed, Jan 18, 2023 2:58 PM

Steve Cottrell wrote:

I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money.

Cotty

That’s my goal. To go through all my decades old chromes and negs to find the good ones plus future shooting. I’m looking at retirement this next year. Might as well let the equipment generate some income.

In 2013 I met a retired couple in PA. He shot a lot for stock. A DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for stills. Seemed to work well for him once he learned what was selling at any given time, which seems to be as much or more important than sheer volume.

Steve Cottrell wrote: > I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money. > > Cotty That’s my goal. To go through all my decades old chromes and negs to find the good ones plus future shooting. I’m looking at retirement this next year. Might as well let the equipment generate some income. In 2013 I met a retired couple in PA. He shot a lot for stock. A DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for stills. Seemed to work well for him once he learned what was selling at any given time, which seems to be as much or more important than sheer volume.
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ann sanfedele
Wed, Jan 18, 2023 7:33 PM

One problem is that the amount of work you need to do just to submit is
very time consuming.  For another, most of the money that
is more than a pittance  if it sells is for commercial use  and you have
to have releases for people and  pets and even homes or other
edifices.   The quality of the image in any aesthetic sense is almost
worthless on its own.  Razor sharp perfectly exposed boring images
of people doing stuff get purchased more often than anything else.. and
if you can recognize the people  you better have a release.

You may have an award winning photo of a famous place or striking scene
but they won't take it because they are apt to have thousands
more on file already That are good enough, not even counting that the
people buying stuff for commercial use especially often don't know what
a good photo is and care less.

It's very tough, Collin.. I feel lucky to have sold as much stock as I
did (which wasn't that much)  through Animals Animals - I 've better
from my current web site and individual pieces or batches of outtakes
that were slides on ebay...

I started out thinking it would support me in my dotage too..  and there
was much more chance of that happening back in the 80's than now because
now almost everyone has a phone that shoots razor- sharp images and
there is so much royalty free stuff on line that it's very unlikely you
could
support yourself on old stock.

ann

On 1/18/2023 9:58 AM, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote:

Steve Cottrell wrote:

I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money.

Cotty

That’s my goal. To go through all my decades old chromes and negs to find the good ones plus future shooting. I’m looking at retirement this next year. Might as well let the equipment generate some income.

In 2013 I met a retired couple in PA. He shot a lot for stock. A DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for stills. Seemed to work well for him once he learned what was selling at any given time, which seems to be as much or more important than sheer volume.

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One problem is that the amount of work you need to do just to submit is very time consuming.  For another, most of the money that is more than a pittance  if it sells is for commercial use  and you have to have releases for people and  pets and even homes or other edifices.   The quality of the image in any aesthetic sense is almost worthless on its own.  Razor sharp perfectly exposed boring images of people doing stuff get purchased more often than anything else.. and if you can recognize the people  you better have a release. You may have an award winning photo of a famous place or striking scene but they won't take it because they are apt to have thousands more on file already That are good enough, not even counting that the people buying stuff for commercial use especially often don't know what a good photo is and care less. It's very tough, Collin.. I feel lucky to have sold as much stock as I did (which wasn't that much)  through Animals Animals - I 've better from my current web site and individual pieces or batches of outtakes that were slides on ebay... I started out thinking it would support me in my dotage too..  and there was much more chance of that happening back in the 80's than now because now almost everyone has a phone that shoots razor- sharp images and there is so much royalty free stuff on line that it's very unlikely you could support yourself on old stock. ann On 1/18/2023 9:58 AM, collinb@brendemuehl.net wrote: > Steve Cottrell wrote: > >> I don’t know if I would recommend themm but there’s a UK agency called Alamy that I used to have images lodged with. In my experience, one has to have literally thousands of images up to make any decent money. >> >> Cotty > That’s my goal. To go through all my decades old chromes and negs to find the good ones plus future shooting. I’m looking at retirement this next year. Might as well let the equipment generate some income. > > In 2013 I met a retired couple in PA. He shot a lot for stock. A DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for stills. Seemed to work well for him once he learned what was selling at any given time, which seems to be as much or more important than sheer volume. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
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collinb@brendemuehl.net
Wed, Jan 18, 2023 11:24 PM

Ann,

Your input is appreciated.

Fortunately I won’t need it to survive. Just hoping that my fun hobby produces a few $$ to compensate. I find the time minimal (for Shutterstock) when I have shot a lot of similar-class but different images. That meant time/count, and worked out well. Time spent per individual picture can be overwhelming.

Again, next step is also to see what is popular at any given time and shoot accordingly. Give the customer what they want.

Ann, Your input is appreciated. Fortunately I won’t need it to survive. Just hoping that my fun hobby produces a few $$ to compensate. I find the time minimal (for Shutterstock) when I have shot a lot of similar-class but different images. That meant time/count, and worked out well. Time spent per individual picture can be overwhelming. Again, next step is also to see what is popular at any given time and shoot accordingly. Give the customer what they want.