They are still hanging in there. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/11/23/defiant K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR Comments, criticisms, questions, and suggestions are invited and appreciated. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*