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Ralf R Radermacher
Mon, May 11, 2026 6:21 PM

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x
17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Enjoy

Ralf

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Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 Enjoy Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012
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ann sanfedele
Mon, May 11, 2026 7:26 PM

I did enjoy -- the landscape more than the sad lonely pier though, I
confess..
meows to the felines

ann

On 5/11/2026 2:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x
17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Enjoy

Ralf

I did enjoy -- the landscape more than the sad lonely pier though, I confess.. meows to the felines ann On 5/11/2026 2:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x > 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 > > > Enjoy > > Ralf > -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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Mark Roberts
Mon, May 11, 2026 7:50 PM

Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x
17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Ooh. That second one is niiice!

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Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x >17 cm medium format camera in 2008. > >https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 > >https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 Ooh. That second one is niiice! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com
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Larry Colen
Mon, May 11, 2026 9:41 PM

I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better.

I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational.

Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose?  Like when people put
sunscreen on when they go to the beach?

On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x
17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Enjoy

Ralf

I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better. I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational. Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose? Like when people put sunscreen on when they go to the beach? On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x > 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 > > Enjoy > > Ralf -- Larry Colen LRC@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
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John Sessoms
Mon, May 11, 2026 11:45 PM

Excellent

On 5/11/2026 2:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x
17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Enjoy

Ralf

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Excellent On 5/11/2026 2:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x > 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 > > Enjoy > > Ralf > -- Aeternum vive aut conando moriere. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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Bob W PDML
Tue, May 12, 2026 5:26 AM

I like both pictures and I’m not at all jealous, oh no, not a bit, that Ralph has/had a 6x17 camera.

Nez does mean nose, but also more generally it means promontory, headland or indeed ness, which has the same origin. It can also mean the bow of a ship.

On 11 May 2026, at 22:41, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better.

I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational.

Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose?  Like when people put sunscreen on when they go to the beach?

On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008.
https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951
https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029
Enjoy
Ralf

I like both pictures and I’m not at all jealous, oh no, not a bit, that Ralph has/had a 6x17 camera. Nez does mean nose, but also more generally it means promontory, headland or indeed ness, which has the same origin. It can also mean the bow of a ship. > On 11 May 2026, at 22:41, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better. > > I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational. > > Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose? Like when people put sunscreen on when they go to the beach? > > >> On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. >> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 >> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 >> Enjoy >> Ralf
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Bob W PDML
Tue, May 12, 2026 8:17 AM

Had I had an atom of wit I could have gone full Cyrano de Bergerac: it’s a rock! It’s a peak! It’s a cape! What am I saying, a cape? It’s a peninsula!

https://youtu.be/OAXX-tr0gzg?si=pWGmT2ZnjRwcVc2w

On 12 May 2026, at 06:26, Bob W PDML pdmlbw@icloud.com wrote:
I like both pictures and I’m not at all jealous, oh no, not a bit, that Ralph has/had a 6x17 camera.

Nez does mean nose, but also more generally it means promontory, headland or indeed ness, which has the same origin. It can also mean the bow of a ship.

On 11 May 2026, at 22:41, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better.

I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational.

Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose?  Like when people put sunscreen on when they go to the beach?

On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008.
https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951
https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029
Enjoy
Ralf

Had I had an atom of wit I could have gone full Cyrano de Bergerac: it’s a rock! It’s a peak! It’s a cape! What am I saying, a cape? It’s a peninsula! https://youtu.be/OAXX-tr0gzg?si=pWGmT2ZnjRwcVc2w > On 12 May 2026, at 06:26, Bob W PDML <pdmlbw@icloud.com> wrote: > I like both pictures and I’m not at all jealous, oh no, not a bit, that Ralph has/had a 6x17 camera. > > Nez does mean nose, but also more generally it means promontory, headland or indeed ness, which has the same origin. It can also mean the bow of a ship. > >> On 11 May 2026, at 22:41, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: >> >> I'll play iconoclast and say that I like the photo of the pier better. >> >> I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational. >> >> Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose? Like when people put sunscreen on when they go to the beach? >> >> >>> On 2026-05-11 11:21, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >>> Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. >>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 >>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 >>> Enjoy >>> Ralf >
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Ralf R Radermacher
Tue, May 12, 2026 9:02 AM

Am 11.05.26 um 23:41 schrieb Larry Colen:

I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational.

For these shots I've used a Gaoersi 617 camera with a Nikkor W 8/90 mm
lens. It takes 4 exposures on a roll of 120 medium format film.

https://murrayfoote.com/2018/09/22/gaoersi-6x17-camera-review-2005/

Sold it when I gave up processing my own films but still think very
fondly of it.

Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose?

Bob has explained it better than I ever could. A few kilometres further
West, there's Cap Gris Nez... grey nose. Have a look on Google Maps.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

Am 11.05.26 um 23:41 schrieb Larry Colen: > I had never heard of 6x17 before, this list is perpetually educational. For these shots I've used a Gaoersi 617 camera with a Nikkor W 8/90 mm lens. It takes 4 exposures on a roll of 120 medium format film. https://murrayfoote.com/2018/09/22/gaoersi-6x17-camera-review-2005/ Sold it when I gave up processing my own films but still think very fondly of it. > Does Blanc Nez mean something like white nose? Bob has explained it better than I ever could. A few kilometres further West, there's Cap Gris Nez... grey nose. Have a look on Google Maps. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012
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David Mann
Tue, May 12, 2026 9:33 AM

Nice.  I always wanted to try a 6x17 camera, or at least an Xpan as a 6x17 presents bigger challenges with scanning.  I did get some good results on a budget using a modified Mamiya RB67 back with 35mm film.  I always found it challenging to compose photos in that format.  I bet the slides look amazing.  There's no substitute for size.

Dave

On May 12, 2026, at 6:21 AM, Ralf R Radermacher pdml@uebra.de wrote:

Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029

Enjoy

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

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Nice. I always wanted to try a 6x17 camera, or at least an Xpan as a 6x17 presents bigger challenges with scanning. I did get some good results on a budget using a modified Mamiya RB67 back with 35mm film. I always found it challenging to compose photos in that format. I bet the slides look amazing. There's no substitute for size. Dave > On May 12, 2026, at 6:21 AM, Ralf R Radermacher <pdml@uebra.de> wrote: > > Just published two 'real' panoramas on fotocommunity, taken with a 6 x 17 cm medium format camera in 2008. > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/roro-2008-fotoralfbe/50061951 > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/cap-blanc-nez-2008-fotoralfbe/50062029 > > Enjoy > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ralf R Radermacher
Tue, May 12, 2026 10:08 AM

Am 12.05.26 um 11:33 schrieb David Mann:

Nice.  I always wanted to try a 6x17 camera, or at least an Xpan as a 6x17 presents bigger challenges with scanning.

Scanning Xpan frames is more difficult, as there are no 35 mm scanners
that scan longer frames. 6x17 can be scanned on a Epson flatbed like the
V700. I'm now using a Epson F-3200, a 'real' film scanner that goes up
to 6 x 20 cm and 4x5 inch.

The greater challenges arise whie taking the picture. 6x17 has all the
drawbacks of large format. You'll have to stop down to f45 in order to
get even exposure into the corners of the frame. That leads to rather
long exposure times, even in bright daylight. I've had motion blur with
river barges...

Night photography at f45 is a constant fight with reciprocal failure in
the corners and the darker parts of the scene and requires at least ISO
400 film.

I bet the slides look amazing.

I've only used negative stock because it is less critical to expose.

There's no substitute for size.

Sure is. More size.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012

Am 12.05.26 um 11:33 schrieb David Mann: > Nice. I always wanted to try a 6x17 camera, or at least an Xpan as a 6x17 presents bigger challenges with scanning. Scanning Xpan frames is more difficult, as there are no 35 mm scanners that scan longer frames. 6x17 can be scanned on a Epson flatbed like the V700. I'm now using a Epson F-3200, a 'real' film scanner that goes up to 6 x 20 cm and 4x5 inch. The greater challenges arise whie taking the picture. 6x17 has all the drawbacks of large format. You'll have to stop down to f45 in order to get even exposure into the corners of the frame. That leads to rather long exposure times, even in bright daylight. I've had motion blur with river barges... Night photography at f45 is a constant fight with reciprocal failure in the corners and the darker parts of the scene and requires at least ISO 400 film. > I bet the slides look amazing. I've only used negative stock because it is less critical to expose. > There's no substitute for size. Sure is. More size. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012