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Igor PDML-StR
Fri, Jan 14, 2022 6:25 PM
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I couldn't
save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than some
65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was less
than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I couldn't
save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than some
65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was less
than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
RS
Rob Studdert
Sat, Jan 15, 2022 2:58 AM
Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.
I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
Cheers,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 05:25, Igor PDML-StR pdmlstr@komkon.org wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I couldn't
save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than some
65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was less
than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
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Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.
I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
Cheers,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 05:25, Igor PDML-StR <pdmlstr@komkon.org> wrote:
>
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
> never followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I couldn't
> save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than some
> 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
> 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
> imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was less
> than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
> 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
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MC
Mark C
Sat, Jan 15, 2022 3:56 PM
Nice composition - how many combined exposures went into the pano?
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger
than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than
2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the
image that was less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
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Nice composition - how many combined exposures went into the pano?
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
> never followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger
> than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than
> 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
> limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the
> image that was less than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
> 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
> --
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Daniel J. Matyola
Sat, Jan 15, 2022 4:32 PM
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't
save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
some
65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
less
than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
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Gorgeous pano!
That is one of my favorite vistas!
Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
<https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:25 PM Igor PDML-StR <pdmlstr@komkon.org> wrote:
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
> never followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> couldn't
> save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
> some
> 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 =
> 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
> imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
> less
> than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
> 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
> --
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ann sanfedele
Sun, Jan 16, 2022 12:57 AM
Igor -
can you send just the jpg?
all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text.. can't
find the one with the photo in it
ann
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger
than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than
2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the
image that was less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
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Igor -
can you send just the jpg?
all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text.. can't
find the one with the photo in it
ann
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've
> never followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger
> than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than
> 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
> limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the
> image that was less than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about
> 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
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Subash Jeyan
Sun, Jan 16, 2022 1:49 AM
Igor -
can you send just the jpg?
all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text..
can't find the one with the photo in it
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with
the presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and
I've never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to
present. This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the
first time I couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size
limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be
larger than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably
less than 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even
the image that was less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to
about 16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 19:57:30 -0500
ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Igor -
> can you send just the jpg?
> all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text..
> can't find the one with the photo in it
Ann, here it is:
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
(not Igor :))
> On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> >
> > I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> > I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with
> > the presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and
> > I've never followed up on that.
> > So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
> >
> > All comments are welcome!
> >
> > Igor
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> > To: PDML@pdml.net
> > Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to
> > present. This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the
> > first time I couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size
> > limit for JPEG.
> >
> > Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be
> > larger than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably
> > less than 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> > But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
> > limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even
> > the image that was less than 32765 px.
> > I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to
> > about 16,000.
> >
> >
> > Grand Teton.
> >
> > Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> > https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
> >
> > And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> > https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
> >
> >
> > All comments are welcome!
AS
ann sanfedele
Sun, Jan 16, 2022 1:47 PM
Thanks, Subash!
On 1/15/2022 8:49 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:
Igor -
can you send just the jpg?
all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text..
can't find the one with the photo in it
On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with
the presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and
I've never followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to
present. This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the
first time I couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size
limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be
larger than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably
less than 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even
the image that was less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to
about 16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
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Thanks, Subash!
On 1/15/2022 8:49 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 19:57:30 -0500
> ann sanfedele <annsan@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Igor -
>> can you send just the jpg?
>> all I get is blah blah blah from the list archive in plain text..
>> can't find the one with the photo in it
>
> Ann, here it is:
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
> (not Igor :))
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 1/14/2022 1:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
>>> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with
>>> the presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and
>>> I've never followed up on that.
>>> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>>>
>>> All comments are welcome!
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
>>> To: PDML@pdml.net
>>> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to
>>> present. This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the
>>> first time I couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size
>>> limit for JPEG.
>>>
>>> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be
>>> larger than some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably
>>> less than 2^16-1=65536-1 = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
>>> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional
>>> limitation imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even
>>> the image that was less than 32765 px.
>>> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to
>>> about 16,000.
>>>
>>>
>>> Grand Teton.
>>>
>>> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
>>> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>>>
>>> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
>>> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> All comments are welcome!
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Igor PDML-StR
Wed, Jan 19, 2022 10:00 PM
Thank you Rob, Dan, Ann, Subash and everybody else for looking and
commenting!
(and to Subash for helping Ann finding the link in my lengthy message.)
Rob, to answer your question:
I used PS for stitching.
It was based on 13 individual shots (unless I skipped some
intermediate ones in the process - due to an excessive overlap).
I could save a tiff with 32765 on a side, but had to reduce the pixel
count to about 16000 for the largest jpeg (not shown here).
Now, I wonder if something like 64000x8000px could have worked
for the TIFF.
In any case, I have no need for those huge pixel numbers - as I am not
printing that pano... The question was purely "academic".
Thinking of which, - it could be cool to have a photo wall paper. :-)
I just need a large enough wall and wallet to cover...
:-)))
Thanks for sharing the pointer to Gigapan.
And your image there is great!
As an aside, the navigation and search there are broken.
E.g. searching for your name doesn't bring your profile or this photo.
And, I cannot get to your panorama from your profile page.
Cheers,
Igor
Rob Studdert Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:59:20 -0800 wrote:
Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.
I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
Cheers,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
= 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
Thank you Rob, Dan, Ann, Subash and everybody else for looking and
commenting!
(and to Subash for helping Ann finding the link in my lengthy message.)
Rob, to answer your question:
I used PS for stitching.
It was based on 13 individual shots (unless I skipped some
intermediate ones in the process - due to an excessive overlap).
I could save a tiff with 32765 on a side, but had to reduce the pixel
count to about 16000 for the largest jpeg (not shown here).
Now, I wonder if something like 64000x8000px could have worked
for the TIFF.
In any case, I have no need for those huge pixel numbers - as I am not
printing that pano... The question was purely "academic".
Thinking of which, - it could be cool to have a photo wall paper. :-)
I just need a large enough wall and wallet to cover...
:-)))
Thanks for sharing the pointer to Gigapan.
And your image there is great!
As an aside, the navigation and search there are broken.
E.g. searching for your name doesn't bring your profile or this photo.
And, I cannot get to your panorama from your profile page.
Cheers,
Igor
Rob Studdert Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:59:20 -0800 wrote:
Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.
I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
Cheers,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
> followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
> some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
> = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
> imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
> less than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
IP
Igor PDML-StR
Wed, Jan 19, 2022 10:24 PM
Thank you, Mark!
For this pano, I had a set of 13 shots, but I don't remember if I skipped
some of them (in the middle) - for simplicity.
I was using an old Bogen/Manfrotto 3433 (aka 501) video tripod head (with
an old Manfrotto video tripod). It is very convenient for panning, but I
the stepping (and overlap control) was done manually.
Igor
Mark C Sat, Jan 15, 2022 3:56 PM wrote:
Nice composition - how many combined exposures went into the pano?
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
= 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
Thank you, Mark!
For this pano, I had a set of 13 shots, but I don't remember if I skipped
some of them (in the middle) - for simplicity.
I was using an old Bogen/Manfrotto 3433 (aka 501) video tripod head (with
an old Manfrotto video tripod). It is very convenient for panning, but I
the stepping (and overlap control) was done manually.
Igor
Mark C Sat, Jan 15, 2022 3:56 PM wrote:
Nice composition - how many combined exposures went into the pano?
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
> followed up on that.
> So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
>
> Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
> some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
> = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
> imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
> less than 32765 px.
> I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
>
>
> Grand Teton.
>
> Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
>
> And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
>
>
> All comments are welcome!
>
> Igor
>
RS
Rob Studdert
Thu, Jan 20, 2022 11:11 AM
Hi Igor,
I'm not sure that PS has the same size limitations as LR, the way LR
works is it produces a composite DNG so I think that the issue is
mainly a limit on the RAW/DNG engine (one of my friends is on the LR
dev team so I will ask out of interest). Pano prints are amazing :)
I think my images are hidden from the public, I have to share a direct
link for them to be visible.
I have a pano head but if I'm shooting hand held or just off a
conventional head I tend to overlap by 50%. This typically makes it
easy for the stitcher and it's easy to set by eye, you just place what
was at the edge of the frame in the centre on the subsequent exposure.
Cheers,
Rob
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 at 09:00, Igor PDML-StR pdmlstr@komkon.org wrote:
Thank you Rob, Dan, Ann, Subash and everybody else for looking and
commenting!
(and to Subash for helping Ann finding the link in my lengthy message.)
Rob, to answer your question:
I used PS for stitching.
It was based on 13 individual shots (unless I skipped some
intermediate ones in the process - due to an excessive overlap).
I could save a tiff with 32765 on a side, but had to reduce the pixel
count to about 16000 for the largest jpeg (not shown here).
Now, I wonder if something like 64000x8000px could have worked
for the TIFF.
In any case, I have no need for those huge pixel numbers - as I am not
printing that pano... The question was purely "academic".
Thinking of which, - it could be cool to have a photo wall paper. :-)
I just need a large enough wall and wallet to cover...
:-)))
Thanks for sharing the pointer to Gigapan.
And your image there is great!
As an aside, the navigation and search there are broken.
E.g. searching for your name doesn't bring your profile or this photo.
And, I cannot get to your panorama from your profile page.
Cheers,
Igor
Rob Studdert Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:59:20 -0800 wrote:
Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.
I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
Cheers,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
followed up on that.
So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
All comments are welcome!
Igor
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
Hi All,
Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
= 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
less than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
Grand Teton.
Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
All comments are welcome!
Igor
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Hi Igor,
I'm not sure that PS has the same size limitations as LR, the way LR
works is it produces a composite DNG so I think that the issue is
mainly a limit on the RAW/DNG engine (one of my friends is on the LR
dev team so I will ask out of interest). Pano prints are amazing :)
I think my images are hidden from the public, I have to share a direct
link for them to be visible.
I have a pano head but if I'm shooting hand held or just off a
conventional head I tend to overlap by 50%. This typically makes it
easy for the stitcher and it's easy to set by eye, you just place what
was at the edge of the frame in the centre on the subsequent exposure.
Cheers,
Rob
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 at 09:00, Igor PDML-StR <pdmlstr@komkon.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Rob, Dan, Ann, Subash and everybody else for looking and
> commenting!
> (and to Subash for helping Ann finding the link in my lengthy message.)
>
> Rob, to answer your question:
> I used PS for stitching.
> It was based on 13 individual shots (unless I skipped some
> intermediate ones in the process - due to an excessive overlap).
> I could save a tiff with 32765 on a side, but had to reduce the pixel
> count to about 16000 for the largest jpeg (not shown here).
> Now, I wonder if something like 64000x8000px could have worked
> for the TIFF.
>
> In any case, I have no need for those huge pixel numbers - as I am not
> printing that pano... The question was purely "academic".
> Thinking of which, - it could be cool to have a photo wall paper. :-)
> I just need a large enough wall and wallet to cover...
> :-)))
>
>
> Thanks for sharing the pointer to Gigapan.
> And your image there is great!
> As an aside, the navigation and search there are broken.
> E.g. searching for your name doesn't bring your profile or this photo.
> And, I cannot get to your panorama from your profile page.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> Rob Studdert Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:59:20 -0800 wrote:
>
> Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
> that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
> RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
> (vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
> size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
> 64000x8000px.
>
>
> I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
> reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
> the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
> long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
> it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
> still appear to be accessible.
>
> http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> >
> > I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
> > I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the
> > presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never
> > followed up on that.
> > So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.
> >
> > All comments are welcome!
> >
> > Igor
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
> > To: PDML@pdml.net
> > Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
> > This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I
> > couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.
> >
> > Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than
> > some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1
> > = 65535, which is 2 bytes)
> > But that seems to be incorrect (or maybe it is an additional limitation
> > imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was
> > less than 32765 px.
> > I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.
> >
> >
> > Grand Teton.
> >
> > Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
> > https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg
> >
> > And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
> > https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg
> >
> >
> > All comments are welcome!
> >
> > Igor
> >
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