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Bill
Sun, Jan 11, 2026 8:24 PM

Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers.

bill

On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers. bill On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: > Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver
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lrc@red4est.com
Sun, Jan 11, 2026 9:04 PM

Rule 1: always use the right tool for the job

Rule 2: anything can be used as a hammer

On January 11, 2026 12:24:34 PM PST, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers.

bill

On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

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Rule 1: always use the right tool for the job Rule 2: anything can be used as a hammer On January 11, 2026 12:24:34 PM PST, Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: >Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers. > >bill > >On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >> Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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John Sessoms
Sun, Jan 11, 2026 9:57 PM

I had an old boss once who said "Screwdrivers are for taking 'em out!"

On 1/11/2026 3:24 PM, Bill wrote:

Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers.

bill

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Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

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I had an old boss once who said "Screwdrivers are for taking 'em out!" On 1/11/2026 3:24 PM, Bill wrote: > Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers. > > bill > > On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >> Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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Pete McIntosh
Sun, Jan 11, 2026 11:37 PM

I'm pretty much like others, my main camera of choice these days is the
Fuji X-Pro 3 and Fuji 16mm and 27 mm lenses. I just love this setup.

I still use my K5 occasionally - it just keeps on keeping on. I'm moving
my KP on - we just don't get on, and battery life is appalling. I lose
the advantage of its compact size because I always need the grip fitted
to have enough battery life for a day.

I haven't written Pentax off entirely though - I've just bought a used
K3-II to take to the Arctic. I'll use the Pentax 18-135 and a
recently-purchased Sigma 10-20 with that. That body will also work well
with my 15mm and 21mm primes. Won't get a chance to try those out before
we depart though.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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From "Henk Terhell" henk.terhell@gmail.com
To pdml@pdml.net
Date 10/01/26 9:28:23
Subject The future of Pentax

There is an new article on PetaPixel about an interview with the Ricoh president and the general manager of Ricoh products.
https://petapixel.com/2026/01/08/the-future-for-pentax-is-uncertain-but-ricoh-is-committed-to-the-brand/
Ricoh is committed to the Pentax brand, despite the quiet situation.
However, there appears to be no new DSLR yet on the drawing board.

Although my beloved K-1 looks and works as new after 9 years, I much like to have better AF for animal shots as well as an automatic focus stacking feature for mushroom shots.
Therefore I am considering to invest in Nikon FF mirrorless gear, such as the Z5-ii, that gets very good reviews.
Nikon has built in recent years a wide range of Z-mount lenses. Also, there are attractive Tamron lenses for this system.

Henk

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I'm pretty much like others, my main camera of choice these days is the Fuji X-Pro 3 and Fuji 16mm and 27 mm lenses. I just love this setup. I still use my K5 occasionally - it just keeps on keeping on. I'm moving my KP on - we just don't get on, and battery life is appalling. I lose the advantage of its compact size because I always need the grip fitted to have enough battery life for a day. I haven't written Pentax off entirely though - I've just bought a used K3-II to take to the Arctic. I'll use the Pentax 18-135 and a recently-purchased Sigma 10-20 with that. That body will also work well with my 15mm and 21mm primes. Won't get a chance to try those out before we depart though. Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne ------ Original Message ------ From "Henk Terhell" <henk.terhell@gmail.com> To pdml@pdml.net Date 10/01/26 9:28:23 Subject The future of Pentax >There is an new article on PetaPixel about an interview with the Ricoh president and the general manager of Ricoh products. >https://petapixel.com/2026/01/08/the-future-for-pentax-is-uncertain-but-ricoh-is-committed-to-the-brand/ >Ricoh is committed to the Pentax brand, despite the quiet situation. >However, there appears to be no new DSLR yet on the drawing board. > >Although my beloved K-1 looks and works as new after 9 years, I much like to have better AF for animal shots as well as an automatic focus stacking feature for mushroom shots. >Therefore I am considering to invest in Nikon FF mirrorless gear, such as the Z5-ii, that gets very good reviews. >Nikon has built in recent years a wide range of Z-mount lenses. Also, there are attractive Tamron lenses for this system. > >Henk >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Alan Cole
Mon, Jan 12, 2026 3:32 AM

Good day, Bill

Many thanks for your eredite explanation & the time you took to compile
it. (A mini-thesis actually!). I agree with everything you say.

However, I have read a couple of reviews where it was alleged that the
EVF image had clearly been embellished by an AI algorithm. So, does one
really know?

With my K5 I shoot almost exclusively in TAV mode with the shutter speed
set to roughly 3x the focal length. In the bright light we experience in
this part of the world the ISO is seldom more than 1600 so noise is
negligible. With the screw drive lenses I have, admittedly the AF is
slow, but fortunately the subjects which interest me are not fast moving
apart from aerobatics. In that case I have found that MF at a small
aperture to increase DOF is the only way. A K3 or K1 with PLM lenses
would do much better but such luxuries are a pipe dream.

Alan C   (In a rather soggy Phalaborwa)

On 11/01/2026 19:48, Bill wrote:

EVFs have an advantage when light levels are such that focusing
through an OVF is pure guesswork while an EVF gains up so you can see
what your doing. Yes noise goes up, but I'll take a noisy viewfinder
that I can focus with over a dark viewfinder that makes focusing
impossible.

For times when critical focus is required an EVF can zoom in on the
point of critical focus (yes, a DSLR can do that in live view, which
is defacto using the camera as if it has an EVF).

For times when focus is critical an an EVF will provide focus peaking
while an OVF will at best give you a green light focus indicator that
what the camera thinks it's pointing at is in focus. DSLR AF sensors
have a bad habit of being too large, misaligned or (and the K5 was a
brutally bad example of this) colour failure of the AF sensor causing
front or rear focusing.

My own K5 had unfixable AF colour failure to the point I was unable to
use AF in the studio or any time the light colour wasn't unadulterated
daylight.

When doing head & shoulders portraits with my K1 (and every AF Pentax
I've used) putting the focus point on the subject's eye more often
than not puts critical focus on the eyebrow, meaning that if I'm
trying to control DOF with a wider aperture I'm out of focus. Not
every picture want's f8, but with Pentax that was my only solution to
have some assurance that the eye would fall into the DOF and look at
least halfways in focus.

With my Fuji I can use my 56/1.2 or 75/1.2 at f1.2 and secure critical
focus every time with a close H&S portrait. With my Pentax DFA* 85/1.2
on the K1 I have to stop down to f8 and pray, which kind of makes all
that extra money I paid for it something of a waste, especially when
the 85mm focal length is considered a common portrait focal length on
the format.

Most of the time these days I'm using a Fuji X-T5, a camera that isn't
renowned for having the best AF out there. Sony and Nikon apparently
are significantly better, but the Fuji is still pretty darned good.

I can tell the camera which eye I want it focused on and it locks onto
that eye and holds focus no matter where it moves in the frame. I can
set my focus spot on a single person in a group and it will hold that
person in focus even as the person moves through a crowd.

And no, Alan, an EVF isn't AI, it's a direct representation of what
the sensor sees with no potential alignment issues causing the
viewfinder to see things the sensor isn't.

So yes, EVFs have some tremendous advantages over OVFs in some
situations.

The disadvantages are that some people are sensitive to EVF flicker. I
know I am, but the manufacturers seem to have overcome this. My X-T1
gave me a blinding headache if I looked through the viewfinder for
more than half a minute at a time. My X-T5 doesn't, and it isn't even
the best viewfinder that Fuji makes. Those are reserved for the X-H#
series.

Battery life suffers with an EVF, but much of this can be mitigated
via not having the viewfinder turn itself on until the viewfinder is
looked through. And obviously, carrying spare batteries

And the biggest disadvantage that I see to EVFs is religion. People
have made OVF vs EVF into some sort of God fearing issue where one or
the other is the one true way and a pox on anyone who thinks differently.

And yes, that is a two way street with zealotry on both sides.

bill

On 1/10/2026 11:26 PM, Alan Cole wrote:

On 11/01/2026 00:43, Larry Colen wrote:

there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF.

Such as? OVF is the real thing, EVF is AI.

My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) & a few lenses up to 500mm suit me just fine.

Alan C

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Good day, Bill Many thanks for your eredite explanation & the time you took to compile it. (A mini-thesis actually!). I agree with everything you say. However, I have read a couple of reviews where it was alleged that the EVF image had clearly been embellished by an AI algorithm. So, does one really know? With my K5 I shoot almost exclusively in TAV mode with the shutter speed set to roughly 3x the focal length. In the bright light we experience in this part of the world the ISO is seldom more than 1600 so noise is negligible. With the screw drive lenses I have, admittedly the AF is slow, but fortunately the subjects which interest me are not fast moving apart from aerobatics. In that case I have found that MF at a small aperture to increase DOF is the only way. A K3 or K1 with PLM lenses would do much better but such luxuries are a pipe dream. Alan C   (In a rather soggy Phalaborwa) On 11/01/2026 19:48, Bill wrote: > EVFs have an advantage when light levels are such that focusing > through an OVF is pure guesswork while an EVF gains up so you can see > what your doing. Yes noise goes up, but I'll take a noisy viewfinder > that I can focus with over a dark viewfinder that makes focusing > impossible. > > For times when critical focus is required an EVF can zoom in on the > point of critical focus (yes, a DSLR can do that in live view, which > is defacto using the camera as if it has an EVF). > > For times when focus is critical an an EVF will provide focus peaking > while an OVF will at best give you a green light focus indicator that > what the camera thinks it's pointing at is in focus. DSLR AF sensors > have a bad habit of being too large, misaligned or (and the K5 was a > brutally bad example of this) colour failure of the AF sensor causing > front or rear focusing. > > My own K5 had unfixable AF colour failure to the point I was unable to > use AF in the studio or any time the light colour wasn't unadulterated > daylight. > > When doing head & shoulders portraits with my K1 (and every AF Pentax > I've used) putting the focus point on the subject's eye more often > than not puts critical focus on the eyebrow, meaning that if I'm > trying to control DOF with a wider aperture I'm out of focus. Not > every picture want's f8, but with Pentax that was my only solution to > have some assurance that the eye would fall into the DOF and look at > least halfways in focus. > > With my Fuji I can use my 56/1.2 or 75/1.2 at f1.2 and secure critical > focus every time with a close H&S portrait. With my Pentax DFA* 85/1.2 > on the K1 I have to stop down to f8 and pray, which kind of makes all > that extra money I paid for it something of a waste, especially when > the 85mm focal length is considered a common portrait focal length on > the format. > > Most of the time these days I'm using a Fuji X-T5, a camera that isn't > renowned for having the best AF out there. Sony and Nikon apparently > are significantly better, but the Fuji is still pretty darned good. > > I can tell the camera which eye I want it focused on and it locks onto > that eye and holds focus no matter where it moves in the frame. I can > set my focus spot on a single person in a group and it will hold that > person in focus even as the person moves through a crowd. > > And no, Alan, an EVF isn't AI, it's a direct representation of what > the sensor sees with no potential alignment issues causing the > viewfinder to see things the sensor isn't. > > So yes, EVFs have some tremendous advantages over OVFs in some > situations. > > The disadvantages are that some people are sensitive to EVF flicker. I > know I am, but the manufacturers seem to have overcome this. My X-T1 > gave me a blinding headache if I looked through the viewfinder for > more than half a minute at a time. My X-T5 doesn't, and it isn't even > the best viewfinder that Fuji makes. Those are reserved for the X-H# > series. > > Battery life suffers with an EVF, but much of this can be mitigated > via not having the viewfinder turn itself on until the viewfinder is > looked through. And obviously, carrying spare batteries > > And the biggest disadvantage that I see to EVFs is religion. People > have made OVF vs EVF into some sort of God fearing issue where one or > the other is the one true way and a pox on anyone who thinks differently. > > And yes, that is a two way street with zealotry on both sides. > > bill > > On 1/10/2026 11:26 PM, Alan Cole wrote: >> On 11/01/2026 00:43, Larry Colen wrote: >>> there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF. >> >> Such as? OVF is the real thing, EVF is AI. >> >> My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) & a few lenses up to 500mm suit me just fine. >> >> Alan C >> >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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Alan Cole
Mon, Jan 12, 2026 3:38 AM

You are pushing it now! West Ham supporters would feel somewhat aggrieved!

Alan C

On 11/01/2026 23:04, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Rule 1: always use the right tool for the job

Rule 2: anything can be used as a hammer

On January 11, 2026 12:24:34 PM PST, Bill anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com wrote:

Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers.

bill

On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

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You are pushing it now! West Ham supporters would feel somewhat aggrieved! Alan C On 11/01/2026 23:04, lrc@red4est.com wrote: > Rule 1: always use the right tool for the job > > Rule 2: anything can be used as a hammer > > On January 11, 2026 12:24:34 PM PST, Bill <anotherdrunkensot@gmail.com> wrote: >> Outside of the USA, hammers are often called American screwdrivers. >> >> bill >> >> On 1/11/2026 1:09 PM, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >>> Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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Steve Cottrell
Wed, Jan 14, 2026 10:07 AM

On 10 Jan 2026, at 22:43, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

If there was a good adapter to use K-mount autofocus with a mirrorless body, I could see myself being tempted to get that setup, because there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF.

https://petapixel.com/2026/01/11/the-path-to-pentaxs-survival-is-to-mirror-sega/ > On 10 Jan 2026, at 22:43, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > If there was a good adapter to use K-mount autofocus with a mirrorless body, I could see myself being tempted to get that setup, because there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF.
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Steve Cottrell
Wed, Jan 14, 2026 10:11 AM

Yeah but the hammer is better ;-)

On 11 Jan 2026, at 19:09, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

Yeah but the hammer is better ;-) > On 11 Jan 2026, at 19:09, lrc@red4est.com wrote: > > Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver
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Stanley Halpin
Wed, Jan 14, 2026 3:59 PM

I have to agree with Cotty because I would rather get hammered than screwed.

Just IMHO…

Stan

On Jan 14, 2026, at 5:11 AM, Steve Cottrell cotty@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Yeah but the hammer is better ;-)

On 11 Jan 2026, at 19:09, lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver

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I have to agree with Cotty because I would rather get hammered than screwed. Just IMHO… Stan > On Jan 14, 2026, at 5:11 AM, Steve Cottrell <cotty@seeingeye.tv> wrote: > > Yeah but the hammer is better ;-) > >> On 11 Jan 2026, at 19:09, lrc@red4est.com wrote: >> >> Arguing about evf vs ovf is like arguing about hammer vs screwdriver > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bill
Sat, Jan 17, 2026 6:57 PM

Allegations are one thing, facts are, of course, something else.

People are calling anything they don't understand AI.

The question is, what AI would be in a viewfinder that can't be
explained away by a simple algorithm?

Highlight correction? We already have that, an EV just makes it visible.
Shadow protection? Same thing, the algorithm in the camera lets the
photographer see the correction.

These things exist, the EV just makes them visible before the button is
pressed.

Certainly I can envision a day when a person points a camera at a
landscape with "AI Sky mode" turned on and the camera inserts a "better
sky" for example. If that's the type of photography a person wants to
do, that's on them.

bill

On 1/11/2026 9:32 PM, Alan Cole wrote:

Good day, Bill

Many thanks for your eredite explanation & the time you took to
compile it. (A mini-thesis actually!). I agree with everything you say.

However, I have read a couple of reviews where it was alleged that the
EVF image had clearly been embellished by an AI algorithm. So, does
one really know?

With my K5 I shoot almost exclusively in TAV mode with the shutter
speed set to roughly 3x the focal length. In the bright light we
experience in this part of the world the ISO is seldom more than 1600
so noise is negligible. With the screw drive lenses I have, admittedly
the AF is slow, but fortunately the subjects which interest me are not
fast moving apart from aerobatics. In that case I have found that MF
at a small aperture to increase DOF is the only way. A K3 or K1 with
PLM lenses would do much better but such luxuries are a pipe dream.

Alan C   (In a rather soggy Phalaborwa)

On 11/01/2026 19:48, Bill wrote:

EVFs have an advantage when light levels are such that focusing
through an OVF is pure guesswork while an EVF gains up so you can see
what your doing. Yes noise goes up, but I'll take a noisy viewfinder
that I can focus with over a dark viewfinder that makes focusing
impossible.

For times when critical focus is required an EVF can zoom in on the
point of critical focus (yes, a DSLR can do that in live view, which
is defacto using the camera as if it has an EVF).

For times when focus is critical an an EVF will provide focus peaking
while an OVF will at best give you a green light focus indicator that
what the camera thinks it's pointing at is in focus. DSLR AF sensors
have a bad habit of being too large, misaligned or (and the K5 was a
brutally bad example of this) colour failure of the AF sensor causing
front or rear focusing.

My own K5 had unfixable AF colour failure to the point I was unable
to use AF in the studio or any time the light colour wasn't
unadulterated daylight.

When doing head & shoulders portraits with my K1 (and every AF Pentax
I've used) putting the focus point on the subject's eye more often
than not puts critical focus on the eyebrow, meaning that if I'm
trying to control DOF with a wider aperture I'm out of focus. Not
every picture want's f8, but with Pentax that was my only solution to
have some assurance that the eye would fall into the DOF and look at
least halfways in focus.

With my Fuji I can use my 56/1.2 or 75/1.2 at f1.2 and secure
critical focus every time with a close H&S portrait. With my Pentax
DFA* 85/1.2 on the K1 I have to stop down to f8 and pray, which kind
of makes all that extra money I paid for it something of a waste,
especially when the 85mm focal length is considered a common portrait
focal length on the format.

Most of the time these days I'm using a Fuji X-T5, a camera that
isn't renowned for having the best AF out there. Sony and Nikon
apparently are significantly better, but the Fuji is still pretty
darned good.

I can tell the camera which eye I want it focused on and it locks
onto that eye and holds focus no matter where it moves in the frame.
I can set my focus spot on a single person in a group and it will
hold that person in focus even as the person moves through a crowd.

And no, Alan, an EVF isn't AI, it's a direct representation of what
the sensor sees with no potential alignment issues causing the
viewfinder to see things the sensor isn't.

So yes, EVFs have some tremendous advantages over OVFs in some
situations.

The disadvantages are that some people are sensitive to EVF flicker.
I know I am, but the manufacturers seem to have overcome this. My
X-T1 gave me a blinding headache if I looked through the viewfinder
for more than half a minute at a time. My X-T5 doesn't, and it isn't
even the best viewfinder that Fuji makes. Those are reserved for the
X-H# series.

Battery life suffers with an EVF, but much of this can be mitigated
via not having the viewfinder turn itself on until the viewfinder is
looked through. And obviously, carrying spare batteries

And the biggest disadvantage that I see to EVFs is religion. People
have made OVF vs EVF into some sort of God fearing issue where one or
the other is the one true way and a pox on anyone who thinks
differently.

And yes, that is a two way street with zealotry on both sides.

bill

On 1/10/2026 11:26 PM, Alan Cole wrote:

On 11/01/2026 00:43, Larry Colen wrote:

there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF.

Such as? OVF is the real thing, EVF is AI.

My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) & a few lenses up to 500mm suit me just fine.

Alan C

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Allegations are one thing, facts are, of course, something else. People are calling anything they don't understand AI. The question is, what AI would be in a viewfinder that can't be explained away by a simple algorithm? Highlight correction? We already have that, an EV just makes it visible. Shadow protection? Same thing, the algorithm in the camera lets the photographer see the correction. These things exist, the EV just makes them visible before the button is pressed. Certainly I can envision a day when a person points a camera at a landscape with "AI Sky mode" turned on and the camera inserts a "better sky" for example. If that's the type of photography a person wants to do, that's on them. bill On 1/11/2026 9:32 PM, Alan Cole wrote: > Good day, Bill > > Many thanks for your eredite explanation & the time you took to > compile it. (A mini-thesis actually!). I agree with everything you say. > > However, I have read a couple of reviews where it was alleged that the > EVF image had clearly been embellished by an AI algorithm. So, does > one really know? > > With my K5 I shoot almost exclusively in TAV mode with the shutter > speed set to roughly 3x the focal length. In the bright light we > experience in this part of the world the ISO is seldom more than 1600 > so noise is negligible. With the screw drive lenses I have, admittedly > the AF is slow, but fortunately the subjects which interest me are not > fast moving apart from aerobatics. In that case I have found that MF > at a small aperture to increase DOF is the only way. A K3 or K1 with > PLM lenses would do much better but such luxuries are a pipe dream. > > Alan C   (In a rather soggy Phalaborwa) > > On 11/01/2026 19:48, Bill wrote: >> EVFs have an advantage when light levels are such that focusing >> through an OVF is pure guesswork while an EVF gains up so you can see >> what your doing. Yes noise goes up, but I'll take a noisy viewfinder >> that I can focus with over a dark viewfinder that makes focusing >> impossible. >> >> For times when critical focus is required an EVF can zoom in on the >> point of critical focus (yes, a DSLR can do that in live view, which >> is defacto using the camera as if it has an EVF). >> >> For times when focus is critical an an EVF will provide focus peaking >> while an OVF will at best give you a green light focus indicator that >> what the camera thinks it's pointing at is in focus. DSLR AF sensors >> have a bad habit of being too large, misaligned or (and the K5 was a >> brutally bad example of this) colour failure of the AF sensor causing >> front or rear focusing. >> >> My own K5 had unfixable AF colour failure to the point I was unable >> to use AF in the studio or any time the light colour wasn't >> unadulterated daylight. >> >> When doing head & shoulders portraits with my K1 (and every AF Pentax >> I've used) putting the focus point on the subject's eye more often >> than not puts critical focus on the eyebrow, meaning that if I'm >> trying to control DOF with a wider aperture I'm out of focus. Not >> every picture want's f8, but with Pentax that was my only solution to >> have some assurance that the eye would fall into the DOF and look at >> least halfways in focus. >> >> With my Fuji I can use my 56/1.2 or 75/1.2 at f1.2 and secure >> critical focus every time with a close H&S portrait. With my Pentax >> DFA* 85/1.2 on the K1 I have to stop down to f8 and pray, which kind >> of makes all that extra money I paid for it something of a waste, >> especially when the 85mm focal length is considered a common portrait >> focal length on the format. >> >> Most of the time these days I'm using a Fuji X-T5, a camera that >> isn't renowned for having the best AF out there. Sony and Nikon >> apparently are significantly better, but the Fuji is still pretty >> darned good. >> >> I can tell the camera which eye I want it focused on and it locks >> onto that eye and holds focus no matter where it moves in the frame. >> I can set my focus spot on a single person in a group and it will >> hold that person in focus even as the person moves through a crowd. >> >> And no, Alan, an EVF isn't AI, it's a direct representation of what >> the sensor sees with no potential alignment issues causing the >> viewfinder to see things the sensor isn't. >> >> So yes, EVFs have some tremendous advantages over OVFs in some >> situations. >> >> The disadvantages are that some people are sensitive to EVF flicker. >> I know I am, but the manufacturers seem to have overcome this. My >> X-T1 gave me a blinding headache if I looked through the viewfinder >> for more than half a minute at a time. My X-T5 doesn't, and it isn't >> even the best viewfinder that Fuji makes. Those are reserved for the >> X-H# series. >> >> Battery life suffers with an EVF, but much of this can be mitigated >> via not having the viewfinder turn itself on until the viewfinder is >> looked through. And obviously, carrying spare batteries >> >> And the biggest disadvantage that I see to EVFs is religion. People >> have made OVF vs EVF into some sort of God fearing issue where one or >> the other is the one true way and a pox on anyone who thinks >> differently. >> >> And yes, that is a two way street with zealotry on both sides. >> >> bill >> >> On 1/10/2026 11:26 PM, Alan Cole wrote: >>> On 11/01/2026 00:43, Larry Colen wrote: >>>> there are times that there are distinct advantages of EVF over OVF. >>> >>> Such as? OVF is the real thing, EVF is AI. >>> >>> My K5 (ex Mark Cassino) & a few lenses up to 500mm suit me just fine. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >