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John
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 9:12 PM

I use the back AF button and leave the shutter button for tripping the shutter.
The camera stays in AF-C all of the time. When the camera is focused on what I
want to focus on, I take my thumb off the AF button and it stops there.

It did take a little while learning to do it that way.

According to Google, there are two modes - AF-C (continuous). AS long as you're
holding the AF button[1] the camera will continuously focus. Good for a moving
subject.

AF-S (Single) focuses once. To change the focus, you have to release your AF
button and press it again.

Some cameras have a mode called AF-A where the CAMERA switches between AF-C &
AF-S based on whether it thinks your subject is stationary or moving.

I've never seen AF-A like that on a Pentax camera ... but I haven't looked for
it either.

[1]AF button means whatever you have the camera set up to cause it to focus.

On 2/24/2021 22:26:03, Larry Colen wrote:

Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of
autofocus.  I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into
something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus
correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise.

On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and
mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that
meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well.

Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S
mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the
autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused,  Even so, I get a lot of
photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong
portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all
in the frame.

Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand
what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse.  I’ll also
occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode.

I realize that different types of photography take different techniques.
With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to
work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really
need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a
shot in focus.

What settings do you use in which situations?

-- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com

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I use the back AF button and leave the shutter button for tripping the shutter. The camera stays in AF-C all of the time. When the camera is focused on what I want to focus on, I take my thumb off the AF button and it stops there. It did take a little while learning to do it that way. According to Google, there are two modes - AF-C (continuous). AS long as you're holding the AF button[1] the camera will continuously focus. Good for a moving subject. AF-S (Single) focuses once. To change the focus, you have to release your AF button and press it again. Some cameras have a mode called AF-A where the CAMERA switches between AF-C & AF-S based on whether it thinks your subject is stationary or moving. I've never seen AF-A like that on a Pentax camera ... but I haven't looked for it either. [1]AF button means whatever you have the camera set up to cause it to focus. On 2/24/2021 22:26:03, Larry Colen wrote: > Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of > autofocus. I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into > something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus > correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise. > > On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and > mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that > meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well. > > Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S > mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the > autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused, Even so, I get a lot of > photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong > portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all > in the frame. > > Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand > what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse. I’ll also > occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode. > > I realize that different types of photography take different techniques. > With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to > work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really > need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a > shot in focus. > > What settings do you use in which situations? > > -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com > -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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John
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 9:14 PM

Unless you're half blind like I am and can't get a good manual focus.

On 2/25/2021 00:54:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)


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On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

What settings do you use in which situations?

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Unless you're half blind like I am and can't get a good manual focus. On 2/25/2021 00:54:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :) > > — > G > > > > — > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigiorgi@me.com - 408-431-4601 >> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: >> >> What settings do you use in which situations? > -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 10:43 PM

In the case of when I cannot see well enough to focus, I just set a distance by scale and get perfect focus. Of course, this doesn't work if you have lenses that have no focusing scale, but I tend to avoid lenses like that.

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On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:14 PM, John jsessoms002@nc.rr.com wrote:

Unless you're half blind like I am and can't get a good manual focus.

On 2/25/2021 00:54:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)

In the case of when I cannot see well enough to focus, I just set a distance by scale and get perfect focus. Of course, this doesn't work if you have lenses that have no focusing scale, but I tend to avoid lenses like that. G > On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:14 PM, John <jsessoms002@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > Unless you're half blind like I am and can't get a good manual focus. > > On 2/25/2021 00:54:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)
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Larry Colen
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 10:52 PM

This is pretty  much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way.

I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago.  Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago.  There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work.

I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point.  My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room.

On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Ditto what Alan wrote.

Rick

On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C cole@lantic.net wrote:

I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same.

Alan C

On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)

Depends on which Pentax body.  Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true.  I forget which one you’re using these days?  You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear.

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This is pretty much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way. I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago. Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago. There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work. I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point. My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room. > On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ditto what Alan wrote. > > Rick > >> On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote: >> >> I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same. >> >> Alan C >> >> On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :) >>> Depends on which Pentax body. Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true. I forget which one you’re using these days? You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear. >>> -- Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 11:19 PM

When I had the Pentax *ist DS and K10D bodies, I replaced the poor quality standard focusing screens with ones that worked well. This is actually the exact same thing I did with focusing screens in some of my SLR camera bodies from 20-50 years ago.

In fact, I was finding that focusing my Hasselblad 500CM was difficult and inconsistent when I used the CFVII 50c digital back with it, although it seemed focus well when I was using it with a film back. I found that Hasselblad has issued a new focusing screen for these 50 year old bodies that has the markings and an improved surface for use with their digital backs … I bought one, installed it, and it is now easy and consistent to focus perfectly with the digital back as well as the film back.

Some ideas remain the same regardless. In an SLR, the quality of the focusing screen is key … and in most cases, it can be improved for not a lot of money. The general purpose focusing screen that is usually fitted in many SLR and DSLR cameras, whether AF or not, is quite often not the best for good, consistent focusing use … and it seems it's nearly always been that way.

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On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

This is pretty  much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way.

I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago.  Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago.  There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work.

I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point.  My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room.

On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Ditto what Alan wrote.

Rick

On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C cole@lantic.net wrote:

I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same.

Alan C

On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)

Depends on which Pentax body.  Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true.  I forget which one you’re using these days?  You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear.

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When I had the Pentax *ist DS and K10D bodies, I replaced the poor quality standard focusing screens with ones that worked well. This is actually the exact same thing I did with focusing screens in some of my SLR camera bodies from 20-50 years ago. In fact, I was finding that focusing my Hasselblad 500CM was difficult and inconsistent when I used the CFVII 50c digital back with it, although it seemed focus well when I was using it with a film back. I found that Hasselblad has issued a new focusing screen for these 50 year old bodies that has the markings and an improved surface for use with their digital backs … I bought one, installed it, and it is now easy and consistent to focus perfectly with the digital back as well as the film back. Some ideas remain the same regardless. In an SLR, the quality of the focusing screen is key … and in most cases, it can be improved for not a lot of money. The general purpose focusing screen that is usually fitted in many SLR and DSLR cameras, whether AF or not, is quite often not the best for good, consistent focusing use … and it seems it's nearly always been that way. G > On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > This is pretty much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way. > > I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago. Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago. There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work. > > I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point. My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room. > > > >> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ditto what Alan wrote. >> >> Rick >> >>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote: >>> >>> I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :) >>>> Depends on which Pentax body. Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true. I forget which one you’re using these days? You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear. >>>> > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 11:19 PM

When I had the Pentax *ist DS and K10D bodies, I replaced the poor quality standard focusing screens with ones that worked well. This is actually the exact same thing I did with focusing screens in some of my SLR camera bodies from 20-50 years ago.

In fact, I was finding that focusing my Hasselblad 500CM was difficult and inconsistent when I used the CFVII 50c digital back with it, although it seemed focus well when I was using it with a film back. I found that Hasselblad has issued a new focusing screen for these 50 year old bodies that has the markings and an improved surface for use with their digital backs … I bought one, installed it, and it is now easy and consistent to focus perfectly with the digital back as well as the film back.

Some ideas remain the same regardless. In an SLR, the quality of the focusing screen is key … and in most cases, it can be improved for not a lot of money. The general purpose focusing screen that is usually fitted in many SLR and DSLR cameras, whether AF or not, is quite often not the best for good, consistent focusing use … and it seems it's nearly always been that way.

G

On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

This is pretty  much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way.

I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago.  Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago.  There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work.

I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point.  My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room.

On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer rickpics14@gmail.com wrote:

Ditto what Alan wrote.

Rick

On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C cole@lantic.net wrote:

I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same.

Alan C

On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigiorgi@me.com wrote:

I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :)

Depends on which Pentax body.  Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true.  I forget which one you’re using these days?  You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear.

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When I had the Pentax *ist DS and K10D bodies, I replaced the poor quality standard focusing screens with ones that worked well. This is actually the exact same thing I did with focusing screens in some of my SLR camera bodies from 20-50 years ago. In fact, I was finding that focusing my Hasselblad 500CM was difficult and inconsistent when I used the CFVII 50c digital back with it, although it seemed focus well when I was using it with a film back. I found that Hasselblad has issued a new focusing screen for these 50 year old bodies that has the markings and an improved surface for use with their digital backs … I bought one, installed it, and it is now easy and consistent to focus perfectly with the digital back as well as the film back. Some ideas remain the same regardless. In an SLR, the quality of the focusing screen is key … and in most cases, it can be improved for not a lot of money. The general purpose focusing screen that is usually fitted in many SLR and DSLR cameras, whether AF or not, is quite often not the best for good, consistent focusing use … and it seems it's nearly always been that way. G > On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > This is pretty much what I’ve been doing, but I don’t like to assume that just because something seems to work for me that it is the best way. > > I have learned that stock focusing screens in 2020 don’t work nearly as well for manual focus as focusing screens did 20-40 years ago. Unfortunately, my eyes also don’t work nearly as well for manual focusing as they did 20 years ago. There are times that manual focusing works better than automatic, such as when a bird is hiding in branches. Unfortunately my 50-500 does not have quickshift focusing and I need to change modes on both the camera body and the lens in order for it to work. > > I have also noticed that the K-1 is much better at focusing on what’s under the focusing point than the K-3 which will pretty much focus on any sharp edge in the same general zip code as what is under the focusing point. My hope was that maybe the AF-C would be better at detecting the person/bird/flower than the microphone/tree branch/paneling on the wall on the other side of the room. > > > >> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer <rickpics14@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ditto what Alan wrote. >> >> Rick >> >>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Alan C <cole@lantic.net> wrote: >>> >>> I mostly use auto focus, single point, spot. Works fine for me. M focus occasionally if I am trying to thread the sensor through the undergrowth. K110D, K7 & K5 all the same. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> On 25-Feb-21 07:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigiorgi@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just turn AF off and focus manually. Much faster and simpler. :) >>>> Depends on which Pentax body. Like I said, with my K100, K2 & Kx that was true. I forget which one you’re using these days? You seem to change your cameras more frequently than some members of this list change their underwear. >>>> > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Toine
Fri, Feb 26, 2021 7:59 PM

I use a single focus point in the center and AF-S. I focus and keep
the button half pressed and compose the shot.
Manual focus only if the model is posing in the bushes and with macro.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 04:26, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus.  I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise.

On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well.

Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused,  Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame.

Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse.  I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode.

I realize that different types of photography take different techniques.  With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus.

What settings do you use in which situations?

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I use a single focus point in the center and AF-S. I focus and keep the button half pressed and compose the shot. Manual focus only if the model is posing in the bushes and with macro. On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 04:26, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus. I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise. > > On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well. > > Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused, Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame. > > Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse. I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode. > > I realize that different types of photography take different techniques. With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus. > > What settings do you use in which situations? > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stanley Halpin
Mon, Mar 1, 2021 9:48 PM

I long ago decided that AF stands for Almost Focused.

My usual practice is to use AF-S, back-button focusing, center spot. I center my subject, let the camera do its AF thing, and then I swing the camera to my intended composition and use the Quick-Shift manual focus to make any adjustments. I love my 77/1.8 Limited, but when I put that lens on, and other more primitive lenses like it without Quick Shift, I go to purely manual focus. Side note, I was quite disappointed to see that the new release of a 77/1.8 apparently does not have the Quick Shift upgrade so I will stick with my old one.

Stan

On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus.  I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise.

On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well.

Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused,  Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame.

Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse.  I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode.

I realize that different types of photography take different techniques.  With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus.

What settings do you use in which situations?

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I long ago decided that AF stands for Almost Focused. My usual practice is to use AF-S, back-button focusing, center spot. I center my subject, let the camera do its AF thing, and then I swing the camera to my intended composition and use the Quick-Shift manual focus to make any adjustments. I love my 77/1.8 Limited, but when I put that lens on, and other more primitive lenses like it without Quick Shift, I go to purely manual focus. Side note, I was quite disappointed to see that the new release of a 77/1.8 apparently does not have the Quick Shift upgrade so I will stick with my old one. Stan > On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: > > Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus. I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise. > > On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well. > > Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused, Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame. > > Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse. I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode. > > I realize that different types of photography take different techniques. With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus. > > What settings do you use in which situations? > > -- > Larry Colen > lrc@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Although Pentax autofocus is lacking in speed and tracking ability, it is very accurate if single point is used without recomposing . For that reason I always use the shutter button to focus and rarely recompose.  With the K-1 I almost always have enough pixels to allow altering of the composition by cropping. I do try to pre-position my focus point to maximize picture area.

Paul

On Mar 1, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Stanley Halpin stan@stans-photography.info wrote:

I long ago decided that AF stands for Almost Focused.

My usual practice is to use AF-S, back-button focusing, center spot. I center my subject, let the camera do its AF thing, and then I swing the camera to my intended composition and use the Quick-Shift manual focus to make any adjustments. I love my 77/1.8 Limited, but when I put that lens on, and other more primitive lenses like it without Quick Shift, I go to purely manual focus. Side note, I was quite disappointed to see that the new release of a 77/1.8 apparently does not have the Quick Shift upgrade so I will stick with my old one.

Stan

On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Larry Colen lrc@red4est.com wrote:

Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus.  I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise.

On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well.

Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused,  Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame.

Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse.  I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode.

I realize that different types of photography take different techniques.  With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus.

What settings do you use in which situations?

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Although Pentax autofocus is lacking in speed and tracking ability, it is very accurate if single point is used without recomposing . For that reason I always use the shutter button to focus and rarely recompose. With the K-1 I almost always have enough pixels to allow altering of the composition by cropping. I do try to pre-position my focus point to maximize picture area. Paul > On Mar 1, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Stanley Halpin <stan@stans-photography.info> wrote: > > I long ago decided that AF stands for Almost Focused. > > My usual practice is to use AF-S, back-button focusing, center spot. I center my subject, let the camera do its AF thing, and then I swing the camera to my intended composition and use the Quick-Shift manual focus to make any adjustments. I love my 77/1.8 Limited, but when I put that lens on, and other more primitive lenses like it without Quick Shift, I go to purely manual focus. Side note, I was quite disappointed to see that the new release of a 77/1.8 apparently does not have the Quick Shift upgrade so I will stick with my old one. > > Stan > >> On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Larry Colen <lrc@red4est.com> wrote: >> >> Just like Arthur Dent and Thursdays, I’ve never really gotten the hang of autofocus. I think that I’ve pretty much bludgeoned autoexposure into something resembling submission, but getting my camera to autofocus correctly, on what I want it to is at best a stochastic exercise. >> >> On my K100, K20 and K-x I just gave up and installed Katzeye screens and mostly did manual focus, and because of the way the katzeye worked, that meant I also ended up doing manual exposure as well. >> >> Historically, overall, I seem to have had the least bad luck, with it in AF-S mode, selecting a single point, and using the AF button to lock out the autofocus once I thought I had it properly focused, Even so, I get a lot of photos perfectly focused on the microphone in front of a singer, the wrong portion of a bird, the wall behind dancers, or on absolutely nothing at all in the frame. >> >> Lately, I’ve been experimenting with AF-C and AF-A (I’m not sure I understand what AF-A is), and things don’t usually seem to be much worse. I’ll also occasionally play with the sel-9 autofocus mode. >> >> I realize that different types of photography take different techniques. With static scenes I can fiddle and frotz until I get something that seems to work, but when photographing birds, either in trees or on the wing, I really need some techniques and settings that at least improve my odds of getting a shot in focus. >> >> What settings do you use in which situations? >> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> lrc@red4est.com >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-leave@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.