OT PESO - NSFW Apparently!

Bruce Walker bruce.walker at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 15:39:30 EDT 2009

frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist <pnstenquist at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Why is it sexist? I think it's mildly erotic and has sexual connotations,
>> but I don't find it demeaning to either sex. If a man opens his shirt and
>> lowers his pants a bit, is that sexist as well?
> Does something have to be demeaning to be sexist?  Portraying someone
> as a sexual being first and a person second is sexist to me;  you may
> not agree.

My dictionary just says this for "sexist": ``prejudice, stereotyping, or 
discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.''

That sounds pretty demeaning to me.

"Portraying someone as a sexual being first and a person second" sounds 
more like objectification than sexism. And objectification is something 
we do all the time, especially we photographers. We silhouette people in 
images and instantly make them objects (shapes, forms).  We use shots of 
random individuals to stand for a general case or symbol -- objects again.

> I'm not saying that I'm offended or that such photos ought not be
> posted (far be it from me to be a censor!), I just find such "mild
> eroticism" (as you put it) to be rather needless and somewhat tedious.
>  It's just not my thing, I guess.
> cheers,
> frank

Needless and tedious?  I dunno, I think the world would be a much poorer 
place without the likes of the Venus de Milo, and Rubin's, Dega's, 
Renoir's and Cezannes nudes.

I suppose they could have busied themselves in more productive pursuits, 
like painting soap ads.



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