The collection went away
lrc at red4est.com
Thu Oct 15 04:09:00 EDT 2009
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:43:10AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
> As far as merging catalogues goes, and not wanting to change your existing
> organisation on the disk/s, I would recommend the following:
I actually would like to fine tune my existing organization. But it
seems that that may be best done in lightroom, rather than with simple
mv 0905* _0905
mv _0905 0905
> 1. create a new catalogue
> 2. using the new catalogue, import your photos from each of the old
> catalogues in turn (in the Library Module, on the File menu, choose Import
> >From Catalog). This is similar to Concept Three on p.310 of the Resnick &
> Spritzer book, which I believe you have.
Yes I do have it. Started reading it, then life caught up with me.
> 3. When that's done, delete all of the old catalogues. This does not delete
> your photos.
If I don't delete the old catalogs, I expect that if I open a picture
using them, I just lose any changes made in the new catalog.
> For the future,
> 1. RTFM
> 1b. Read the Resnick & Spritzer book from end to end, thinking all the time
> about how you can apply their workflow in your situation
As I said, I started to, shortly after buying the book.
> 2. understand the options on the Import dialog - this will go a long way to
> giving you a structure you understand
OK, I'll take a look at that.
> 3. learn about keywords and how useful they can be for fast search and
I've been using them.
> 4. understand what Collections are
They seem to be just a set of pointers to files in multiple
> 5. Learn about Smart Collections
Will do. I have an innate distrust of anything labeled "Smart" as part
of a computer system.
> 6. create a new folder and always import straight into that, using LR to
> manage the organisation. Don't move any files around unless you use LR to do
> the moving.
Do you mean just have one directory for importing into?
My normal workflow is to copy, or move, the files from my SD card onto
a named file on my linux desktop. For example 091015_foo_bar, then to
scp that directory over to my Mac:
scp -pr 091015_foo_bar lrc at 10.0.1.249:pictures_2009
This way by typing in a command, I offload the files, and instantly
make a backup on a separate machine. Since, by convention, I name all
the directories by date, it makes it easy to find the originals in
case anything goes worng.
Even simpler, I have a couple of scripts to do it. So if I want to
copy the files off the card (snarf them) then send them over the the
iMac, I just type
the script looks like:
ls /media/disk/dcim/*/* |wc
mv /media/disk/dcim/*/* $1
scp -pr $1 10.0.1.249:pictures_2009
I suppose, if you think I should just copy them all into the same
directory every time, I could change the last line to:
scp -pr $1/* 10.0.1.249:lr_import
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On
> > Behalf Of Larry Colen
> > Sent: 15 October 2009 05:42
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: The collection went away
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 06:01:43PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote:
> > >
> > > On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> > >
> > > > However their methodology of file handling seems a bit weird at
> > > >times.
> > > >
> > > Lightroom is built around SQL. Like any database program, the
> > > organizational structure is designed to facilitate storage and
> > > retrieval, not necessarily user comprehension. Good news about this
> > > approach is that it allows very fast processing of search/sort/
> > > retrieval requests from among tens of thousands records (images). As
> > OK, this sounds promising.
> > > others havwe suggested, file it and forget it. Lightroom
> > can find it,
> > > you don't need to fret about an organizational structure
> > that you can
> > > make sense of. If you have problems with Lightroom, you can try to
> > > "learn Lightroom" or you can find a general simple discussion of
> > > database systems and work from there.
> > >
> > > Another good thing about Lightroom is that they have nicely layered
> > > the image processing functions onto the database functions without
> > > compromising either too badly.
> > Let's say that I want to create an ubercatalog, as suggested.
> > And lets assume that I don't want to lose the work that I've
> > already done on my 20 or so catalogs of about 570 directories
> > with about 62,000 photos.
> > Godfrey said that I should merge catalogs. But, when I look
> > in the indexes of my lightroom books, neither said anything
> > about merging catalogs.
> > When I look at the menu there is
> > new catalog
> > open catalog
> > and open recent (which seems to be recent catalog)
> > There are also a bunch of library functions, which seem to
> > operate on the catalog, but they may only look at a
> > particular directory tree at a time.
> > The list of directories over on the left very quickly gets
> > unweildy. However, since I name all of my download
> > directories with yymmdd_subject i.e. 091014_cormorants_1
> > It'll be very easy for me to set up a structure
> > raw_photos
> > 2007
> > 2008
> > 2009
> > 0901
> > 0902
> > 0903
> > 0904
> > ...
> > 0910
> > 091001_ebay_makeup
> > 091001_product_sample
> > 091001_product_shoot
> > 091002_dangoughs
> > 091003_pdml
> > 091003_pdml_dinner
> > 091003_rentparty
> > 091005_aikido_test
> > 091007_floor
> > 091007_probuild
> > 091009_fnb_gwebster
> > 091009_gwenplay
> > 091010_headon
> > 091010_rentparty
> > 091013_metaformers
> > and if I want all of my best shots, I frob the item in the
> > library menu to include subdirectories, go to raw_photos and
> > have it only show the ones rated five stars.
> > If I'm willing to set aside all of my work, I could move
> > everything into the directory tree that I want, open a new
> > catalog, and tell lightroom to import all 61824 files.
> > Can I then just "import from catalog" to recover all the work
> > I've done on those files without duplicating them?
> > What if I've moved them from where they were when I made that catalog?
> > I've seen lightroom recover from files being moved, I've also
> > seen it get terribly confused.
> > --
> > The first step is learning to take great photos, the second
> > step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
> > Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com
> > http://www.red4est.com/lrc
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the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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