OT: Obama just won Nobel Peace Prize.

John Sessoms jsessoms002 at nc.rr.com
Sun Oct 11 13:19:35 EDT 2009

From: "William Robb"
> From: "frank theriault"
>> >
>> > Of course, since Japan didn't surrender immediately after Hiroshima,
>> > waiting instead until the second bomb flattened Nagasaki, it's
>> > doubtful that a demonstration of the bomb's capabilities at a desert
>> > test-site would have persuaded Japan to surrender.
> I recall reading somewhere some time prior to the internet that the Nagasaki 
> bomb was probably not needed to end the war, but as it was a different 
> design from the Hiroshima bomb, the military wanted to "test" it to see 
> which design had the better destructive power, and Nagasaki happened to be 
> there.
> I don't know if there is much, if any truth to this, I don't recall what the 
> political leaning of the author was.

Wishful thinking by revisionists. There's a lot of that on both sides of 
the debate.

The Japanese didn't surrender for another six days after the Nagasaki 
bombing. The only reason a third weapon was not used was we didn't have 
a third weapon. The Japanese did surrender before another became available.

The Nagasaki weapon was the same type that had already been tested at 
Trinity site. It was the Hiroshima bomb whose design was untested.

All of the target cities were chosen because they had some militarily 
significant target, were relatively unscathed by the conventional 
bombing campaign, and were unlikely to be reached by the conventional 
bombing campaign before the weapons were ready in Aug 1945.

After Hiroshima, the U.S. military did not know Japanese intentions, and 
had very little intelligence on internal Japanese discussions in the 
time between the two bombings. And, in fact, after Hiroshima the 
Japanese were still thinking they could negotiate a cease fire and 
armistice instead of surrendering. It's clear from Japanese records that 
the Nagasaki attack is what caused them to surrender.

Timing of the second attack was based on weather.

It was originally scheduled for Aug 11, but bad weather was forecast 
beginning Aug 10, and the commander of the bomb group responsible for 
delivering the weapons rescheduled the attack for Aug 9.

Nagasaki was the secondary target and was attacked because the primary 
target, Kokura, was 70% obscured by cloud, and the orders for the 
mission required visual identification of the aiming point for bomb release.

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