William Robb warobb at gmail.com
Mon Oct 5 22:52:40 EDT 2009

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graydon" 
Subject: Re: OT: MI5

> On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:34:14PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
>> On Oct 5, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>> There are some photos here from a new officially-sanctioned book
>>> about the history of MI5, but take a look at photo number 5, which
>>> purports to  show a night-training exercise.
>>> Have you ever seen such an obvious fake?
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8290504.stm
>>> It's laughable!
>> Yeah, doesn't make sense. The large moon might be possible with a
>> really long lens, but not the accompanying DOF. A paste-up for sure.
> At least in the 80s, the British Army used to do a lot of training on
> indoor ranges with sub-calibre simulators, which is a fancy term for
> rigging up an assault rifle to fire .22 longs.  The trick was that you
> projected an exterior scene on a large screen made of multiple layers of
> randomly moving paper; the sound of firing gets picked up by a
> microphone and the backlit, multi-layer screen shows a little dot of
> light, which is where you hit.  Because the paper is moving randomly,
> you never get the same hole through all the layers twice.  (Or at least
> not until the paper really needs replacing.)  This lets you do all sorts
> of live-fire training at realistically confusing targets without needing
> a lot of outside to do it in, something the Isle of the Mighty has in
> short supply if at all.
> It is possible that the picture, especially given the weird perspective
> and silly height of the fence, was taken in a facility like that, with a
> projected night sky on the wall.

You and Adam just amaze me with what you know.

William Robb

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