Denied

[graywolf]

Which is, of course, the problem with computer images in general. Then we have 
the Apple 1.8 gamma vs. Windows 2.2 gamma problem. And those are a problem even 
on well calibrated systems. Then you have the, "Calibration, what's 
calibration?", folks out there. And to top it off you have the personal 
preferences problem, do you prefer a somewhat highkey or a somewhat lowkey 
image. At least in the days of chemical prints you could move the image into the 
proper light if you were a perfectionist.

Graywolf
Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Blog:    http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/

Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> It's not just equipment, it's viewing conditions as well.
> I see less subtle dark details here than I do in the basement.
> Here I use my laptop with a 3 pane sliding glass door right behind me
> - north light.
> In the basement I'm a troglidite.  Weak 60 watt lights in the ceiling
> leaves it dark!
> You see different things on the 20 inch LCD in the basement.
> 
> And as before, I like the photo.  The crescent moon is an eye magnet!
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2007 10:33 AM, Bruce Dayton <bkdayton at daytonphoto.com> wrote:
>> An interesting issue brings itself forward when the voting is so open
>> like this.  There have been quite a few photos shown on this list
>> (including a few of mine) where some of the members can't see the
>> deeper shadows - essentially a hardware problem - could be calibration
>> or just problem monitors.  So when a photo is voted on, not only are
>> you at the mercy of the voters, but if their monitors don't/can't show
>> the subtle details, your image could get panned.  A fairly recent one
>> of mine shown here did just that.  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ptreyes_0137a.htm
>> Based on the list response, I thought this one would make it.  There
>> were some responders on the list here who could not see the foreground
>> details and thought there was too much black in the foreground.
>>
>> What I am getting at, is that the odds of a subtle image making it
>> through now is even harder because of variance of equipment being used
>> to view the photos for judging.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Friday, November 30, 2007, 4:57:57 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> DJB> On Nov 30, 2007 7:51 PM, P. J. Alling
>> DJB> <webster26 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> I know why they were rejected, too subtle.
>> DJB> Meaning, crappy.:-)
>>
>> DJB> Dave
>>>> David J Brooks wrote:
>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5076840
>>>>>
>>>>> The other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2007 9:30 AM, Doug Brewer <dbrewer at richmond.ky.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> any chance we can see these photos?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David J Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few of the latest Pentax Gallery threads, i decided to
>>>>>>> enter two of my best like photos, as decided by me and others
>>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked the site today and they have been rejected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least i have my original four still there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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