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[P. J. Alling]

Nice clouds now.

Russell Kerstetter wrote:
> Here is a new, brighter version.  It is still a little dark, but much
> more than this and the clouds are just a white mess.
>
> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html
>
> Thanks again to those who commented.
>
> Russ
>
> On 4/2/07, Russell Kerstetter <russellkerstetter at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Shel and Godders-
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to show me some alternative solutions.  I
>> like both of your different takes, I also like that you were able to
>> brighten the whole thing up without losing the cloud detail.  I
>> fiddled around for a while this evening, but was not able to duplicate
>> our results.  I can brighten it up some, but by the time I start to
>> lose cloud detail the water in the lake is still too dark.  But that
>> may be the price I have to pay for using free software :)  So I will
>> have to mess around with this some more again tomorrow evening and see
>> what I can come up with.  Thanks again.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> On 4/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <ramarren at mac.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Your original was rendered extremely dark, Russell. It's a simple
>>> landscape scene ... rendered up with a bit bit of balancing between
>>> water and sky, you get this rather nice, rather serene feel out of
>>> it. I took the liberty of doing a couple of edits to give you an idea
>>> where I'd go with it... It includes your original so you can see the
>>> differences easily.
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rk2882/
>>>
>>> This is a case where if I was using Lightroom I could likely do most
>>> of what I did with its tools, and presuming I had the RAW file to
>>> work with, but with just an 8bit image file to work with Photoshop
>>> allows the kind of gentle, selective editing required to bring this up.
>>>
>>> 1- Don't underexpose. Determine where the brightest elements are that
>>> you want to retain detail in and expose correctly for that ...
>>> Placing exposure properly like that takes a little time to figure out
>>> and if you're not sure you should bracket exposure around it. The
>>> histogram shows you an approximation based on values in the JPEG
>>> preview that is rendered for every file, but if you're capturing in
>>> RAW you can work with what looks like a little bit of highlight
>>> overexposures on the histogram. It's not rigorously calibrated, you
>>> have to work with it to understand what you're seeing.
>>>
>>> 2- Yes, this is a problem. Your screen looks overly bright compared
>>> to the ambient light and that's tricking your eye. Better to
>>> calibrate and profile the screen in modest, normal room light and
>>> work that way so that your eyes and the screen are at proper
>>> luminance values. I calibrate my screen for 140 lumens, gamma 1.8 and
>>> 5500K white point in normal, indirect room illumination. Move any
>>> light that glares on the screen to a different position so that's not
>>> a problem. This will make a huge difference in how your photos come out.
>>>
>>> Godfrey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
>>>> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
>>>> picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
>>>> DL.
>>>>
>>>> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
>>>> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
>>>> that, right?
>>>>
>>>> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment
>>>> further):
>>>>
>>>> 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
>>>> on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
>>>> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
>>>> the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
>>>> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
>>>> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
>>>> than just a half-stop.
>>>>
>>>> 2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the screen.
>>>> I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from what
>>>> I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem.
>>>>
>>>> Russ
>>>> (here to learn)
>>>>
>>>> On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <russellkerstetter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house.  Also this is
>>>>> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto.  I was using Lightroom
>>>>> beta, iPhoto definately has less features and some irritating
>>>>> limitations, but it does have the 'touch-up' tool, which is pretty
>>>>> handy.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2882.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Honest comments please, thanks for looking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russ
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